Oscar vs Miguel, 3rd of May, Los Angeles

[boxing_pundit85]

This is not a gimme fight for Cotto. Oscar can win this one. The fight would make money, make Cotto a household name, and surely bring Floyd out of retirement, especially if Cotto beats Oscar in impressive fashion. If Oscar wins everyone will put him back on top, just like they did when he beat Mayorga. This would lead to another huge payday fight for Floyd and Oscar, possibly 50/50. Now tell me if that wouldn't bring Floyd back.

one of the problems is that if oscar wins, floyd has no reason to come back unless he wants to do something ****** like move up in weight to make an arguement for goat.

[crillz]

This is not a gimme fight for Cotto. Oscar can win this one. The fight would make money, make Cotto a household name, and surely bring Floyd out of retirement, especially if Cotto beats Oscar in impressive fashion. If Oscar wins everyone will put him back on top, just like they did when he beat Mayorga. This would lead to another huge payday fight for Floyd and Oscar, possibly 50/50. Now tell me if that wouldn't bring Floyd back.

yea but he doesn't deserve the fight, Oscar DOESN'T deserve the fight, he is using his NAME as a credential in a sport where you have to BEAT the guys and climb the ranks, he's jumping out of a loss into a fight for a MAJOR belt, he is bypassing the ranks due to his bank account gross and getting away with it and also being considered.. it ain't about if he can win or lose the fight because where he stands he shouldn't even be fighting this kind of fight.

[boxing_pundit85]

This is not a gimme fight for Cotto. Oscar can win this one. The fight would make money, make Cotto a household name, and surely bring Floyd out of retirement, especially if Cotto beats Oscar in impressive fashion. If Oscar wins everyone will put him back on top, just like they did when he beat Mayorga. This would lead to another huge payday fight for Floyd and Oscar, possibly 50/50. Now tell me if that wouldn't bring Floyd back.

lol Floyd has never taken a risk to fight a guy like Cotto, of course he hasnt been hurt. He fights hype-jobs and champions that havent won belts in like 5 years. I mean everyone remembers the first half of the Judah fight, Judah was landing that straight left and it took 5 rounds for Mayweather to turn on.

Cotto on the other hand, destroys the likes of fighters that Floyd has faced. You can't really think anyone in the welterweight division can take Cotto's shots continuously

wow, and floyd eats a lot of flush shots doesnt he? try the fewest in the sport. and i missed cottos incredible power against mosely, floyd wins ud or cotto is stopped due to accumulated punshment, deal with it. and floyd has tasted real power in oscar, and power is the last thing to go in a fighter if you know anything about the boxing. if you are saying cotto has more power at 147 than oscar did at 154 im done with you.

[-Hyperion-]

since when is it about people having nothing to lose and not a person DESERVING a fight? name one thing Oscar has done since robbing Felix Sturm that makes him eligible for such a high profile fight? what, his name? that is a good enough credential? **** outta here with that ****, a win over Oscar of today wont do **** for Cotto because all he is is a shell of his former self, and 50% version of a fighter from 10 years ago, times moves on and it moved for Oscar so he should just step the **** aside and allow for real contenders to dance with the champion, deserving people who fought their way up the Welterweight ranks and didn't just move back down from a weight where they got sent back down from..

if you seriously believe a win over dlh for cotto doesnt make him 5 times bigger name, you know nothing about boxing.......

floyd doesnt want deserving challengers, he wants guys who bring enough money.....and those right now are oscar or possibly the next guy who beats oscar....and that could be miguel cotto if the fight gets through....jeez....noobs...

[MaYaN_SuN]

This is not a gimme fight for Cotto. Oscar can win this one. The fight would make money, make Cotto a household name, and surely bring Floyd out of retirement, especially if Cotto beats Oscar in impressive fashion. If Oscar wins everyone will put him back on top, just like they did when he beat Mayorga. This would lead to another huge payday fight for Floyd and Oscar, possibly 50/50. Now tell me if that wouldn't bring Floyd back.

Thats the problem, if Oscar does win, Mayweather would immediately dismiss Cotto. Styles make fights, Cotto has the style tailer fitted to dismantle Mayweather. And even though Oscar is old, he's still tall and capitalizes on his reach with decent pop, the closest Miguel has had against a fighter like that was against Quintana. But Oscar wouldn't come out as nervous or as low as Quintana did. Not only that, early in the fight Oscar wouldn't be in Cotto's wheel house, he would be after 6 or 7 though. And thats when I can see Cotto winning if he can keep from getting hurt, wich...I think he is more then capable of.

So even though I'd give Cotto an edge, I'd still think it would too risky. Especially when you got a shot at the so called "Best of our era/PFP."

And as fickle/frightfull and as back peddling as Floyd is (yes, I said fickle lol.) You can't take a chance like that, you just cant. Cause Mayweather isnt fightin anybody, tryin to get him into a real fight is like pulling teeth. Cotto shouldn't jepordize this oppertunity at Floyd. He should hound Floyd until he fights. Then worry about Oscar.

[crillz]

if you seriously believe a win over dlh for cotto doesnt make him 5 times bigger name, you know nothing about boxing.......

floyd doesnt want deserving challengers, he wants guys who bring enough money.....and those right now are oscar or possibly the next guy who beats oscar....and that could be miguel cotto if the fight gets through....jeez....noobs...

yo on the real you need to pull your head out ya ass, you sitting here acting like you know Boxing on a whole other level, don't be calling me no ****ing noob neither dogz save that little kid name calling **** for the playground, I'm tired of you coming at *****z wrong for no good reason..

this ain't about Floyd and no **** will a Oscar win make Cotto a bigger NAME but this ain't a name game dogz this about the best fighting the best, right now Oscar brings nothing to the table besides a ****ing name and YOU must not know the Boxing if you seriously sitting here and considering him for this fight knowing he lost 3 of his last 5 and hasn't been at Welterweight for YEARS.. you make it seem like it's okay to jump into a division after getting your ass whipped by the best guys you've faced and going straight at the head honcho all because you have a certain kind of name, without even facing a tune up of nothing just going straight up at the head dog in the yard like it's all good, **** outta here yo I NEVER said it wouldn't make him a bigger name I said Oscar don't deserve the fight, ever thought for a second that maybe YOU don't know your Boxing..

[El Chicano]

wow, and floyd eats a lot of flush shots doesnt he? try the fewest in the sport. and i missed cottos incredible power against mosely, floyd wins ud or cotto is stopped due to accumulated punshment, deal with it. and floyd has tasted real power in oscar, and power is the last thing to go in a fighter if you know anything about the boxing. if you are saying cotto has more power at 147 than oscar did at 154 im done with you.

Floyd took Oscar's best shots, Oscar didn't land all night, but he did get in a couple of flush ones. The thing with Floyd is, he sees everything coming. That's part of having a good chin, preparing ur body to take the shot. Ricky didn't see that punch coming on Saturday, therefore, straight into the ****in' ringpost he went, and Floyd ain't known for power, hell, Ricky took Kostya's and Cool Vince's best shots. Floyd caught him by surprise. So back to the subject, Floyd see's everything coming, It'll be hard to hurt him, unless ur super fast, ala Zab Judah. Cotto won't hurt Floyd.

[boxing_pundit85]

Floyd took Oscar's best shots, Oscar didn't land all night, but he did get in a couple of flush ones. The thing with Floyd is, he sees everything coming. That's part of having a good chin, preparing ur body to take the shot. Ricky didn't see that punch coming on Saturday, therefore, straight into the ****in' ringpost he went, and Floyd ain't known for power, hell, Ricky took Kostya's and Cool Vince's best shots. Floyd caught him by surprise. So back to the subject, Floyd see's everything coming, It'll be hard to hurt him, unless ur super fast, ala Zab Judah. Cotto won't hurt Floyd.

great point about the ability to see and prepare for shots should be factored into a guys chin. good post

[El Chicano]

Come to think of it, I've seen Cotto tire (or get gun shy) late in fights, Shane and N'dou come to mind right away. Floyd thrives on taking it to his opponent during the second half of the fight, Floyd tops Cotto easy. Cotto needs to make some money, and a name for himself and fight Oscar before he (Miguel) falls off the map after losing to Floyd. If he don't take the Oscar fight, someone else will. Now who is most deserving to make all those millions???? I think Cotto is.

[MaYaN_SuN]

wow, and floyd eats a lot of flush shots doesnt he?

He did early in the Zab fight, that was based on Zab's quickness, and Mayweather leaves his body to be mashed when he's behind his shoulder. You add Cotto's quickness and frequent body work, and well..you can do the math.

and i missed cottos incredible power against mosely,

Well that's cause youre blind lol. Cotto landed flush power shot after flush power shot. And if you missed that, just take a look at Shanes corner during the fight, that should explain what you missed.

floyd wins ud or cotto is stopped due to accumulated punshment, deal with it.

You're either 60 years old and senial, or just flat out ******ed lol. I mean even I wouldn't choose a winner of this fight. I just know Cotto can win this, and if he wins it easily, I won't be surprised.

and floyd has tasted real power in oscar, and power is the last thing to go in a fighter if you know anything about the boxing. if you are saying cotto has more power at 147 than oscar did at 154 im done with you.

lol If you "knew" anything about Boxing, you'd know Oscar's power and Cotto's power comepletely different. Cotto's power is quick and short, Oscar's power is slightly slower and longer.

if you are saying cotto has more power at 147 than oscar did at 154 im done with you.

Technically you'd be done with yourself for admitting that Cotto, the new young talent, is weaker then a old Oscar who fights at weight class thats too heavy even for him..lol

You're probably one of those morons that think this Hatton bout was legitimate, completely oblivious to the fact Hatton is no more then a Hype-Job.. lol yeah kiddo, if anyone is done with anything, I think I'm pretty much done with you