The official "I disapprove of Hopkins's comments" thread

[Ironside]

Are you insinuating blacks are ok with racism?

I'm just surprised that you are ok with someone saying something racist, when your own race has been discriminated against. You'd think people would learn.

[cortdawg25]

I know well what I'm saying: racism or discrimination is not something that any one people have been exclusively a victim of. Can a black person tell a *** or a Native American that they would never understand? Do you think "whiteboy" is a harmless word? To whom? To a white kid who grew up among black people? You're trying to make a special exception for black people, as if the word 'n.igger' had something special or unique about it. Horrible as the word may be, it is neither special or unique.

Yes a black person can tell a ***ish person and/or Native American that they don't understand. ***s and Native Americans have had there fair share of hatred and racism in this country (more or so Native Americans), but neither of those groups had to endure over 300 yrs slavery and atleast 100 more yrs of being 2nd hand citizens. And I ain't even going to talk about just in 2005, I believe, (Hurrican Katrina)we were refugees in our own country and left for dead on top of our rooftops.

[Shanus]

I don't think what he said was all that bad, granted that it wasn't right, but if he called him Cracker Jack, Honkey Joe or Sheep Shagger.. it'd be alot worse.

It's just build up to the fight, remember what Hopkins did against Trinidad with the Puerto Rican flag? It's all hype, baby.

Hopkins is a very controversial man AND fighter.

[BrooklynBomber]

Wouldn't it be refreshing for black people to feel that they're much better off than these groups and have been since the inception of this great country?

Oooh yea, would not it be to better off for the black people to remember that since the times of Roman Holy Inquisition the entire ***ish population was ran off it's land(in Spain) and during the 400 years that the blacks were ******, most of these people(around 90%) were killed, and that is not even taking into account the 20th century. So, slavery was bad, no doubt about it, but dislocation of the whole ethnicity with a subsequent slaughter(just like the native americans) is worse.


And don't even let me start on the native americans and the chinese.

[kayjay]

Yeah instead of enslaving the Native Americans, we killed them of. Who got it worse? Chris Rock and I agree they got the less favorable deal.

The ***s, I don't want to defend them, but on their account they've been in exile for a few thousand years, and they were systematically roasted only sixty odd years ago.

[Bhopreign]

I'm just surprised that you are ok with someone saying something racist, when your own race has been discriminated against. You'd think people would learn.

My own race? Which is what? I dont recall saying. But I see nothing racist about it, Not sure if youre in America or not, but a black person using that phrase doesnt sound racist to me. Not like Cal is the first white male Hop would be facing, if so how come we never heard he was a "racist" before? Cause he isnt, if you cant understand its all to get in Cal's head maybe you shouldnt watch boxing, because Ive seen worse than this. Take it with a grain of salt, Hop doesnt know Cal personally so he doesnt hate him.

[Motofan]

Yeah he said he would never lose to a white man

I guess he has a point. You know, cause he will never dare fight Joe. **** you Hopkins! I used to like the guy, but there is NO need to make it a racial thing. That is ****ing ignorant and makes boxing look bad.

[sonofisis]

Forefathers had issues with keeping the union together, ****** were viewed as completely different species from the whites and you can't really have an inferiority complex towards someone you consider to be an animal, right?

Yes you can. It can easily be perceived psychologically as an expression of self-hatred. For instance, male slave's genitals were literally cut off at the slightest sign disobedience while male slave masters slept with numerous female ****** at a time. Why would you tamper with someone's balls and have sex with "animals" unless you truly hated yourself? Did these said "animals" want to sleep with you?

Harsh, but this is true, ****** were viewed as a commodity, and guess what, the racism that we think of today, it started AFTER the ****** were liberated.

Of course it was true, however you exaggerate a bit to make a point. ****** were seen as property yet in census reports were considered 3/5 human being. A lot of southerners cheated the census for their own benefit ad that was becoming a problem. Anyways, yea..

[cortdawg25]

***s and speaking of America, the chinese.
In fact blacks are not even close to what was done to ***s in the last five hundred years.

In America Bomber? are you sure? Even if we talk the world, no other continent has been used and abused like Africa. Not only America participtaed in slavery but Portugese, England, France, and on and on. And they have been doing so for centuries. No ther culture can say they have suffered like blacks at least not here in America.

[Steak]

So what did hopkins say I'm confused

I cant let a white boy beat me

or

I cant let a h***y beat me

What phrase did he use because I'm getting confused???

what fills the ***? are you trying to spell honkey? since when is that a bad word, hahaha
and nothing wrong with cracka either. when i hear 'cracka' I think "damn, I could go for some saltines right about now"

its all in the context you use it I think. If I say ****** in an offensive or hostile way, its bad. If I say it nice and friendly, it aint a big deal. I usually dont say it at all, cause some people are offended by it and its not a big deal to just try and be respectful. usually you can tell when or where you ought to use it unless youre an idiot.

for example, if you were in a school dominated like blacks like mine was, saying ****** was a sure way to get your ass kicked. If you go to a big redneckfest like the ones that were close to my home and called them crackers, you probebly will get your ass beat in a simliar way. even if they cant kick your ass, i prefer to try and not offend anyone racially, just out of courtesy.

but on the other hand, dont give me this horse**** about blacks having a terrible history and non blacks not understanding it. there are no black people that have ever personally been ******, cause everyone from that era is dead. Im positive black individuals have been racially affronted at points in their life, but youll meet a ton of other individuals of different races that have gone through similiar things, if not exactly the same situations