MayWeather, Calderon & Guzman

[Mozza]

I just went on, and on, and on... LOL!!! Still I stand by it. make it 147 or 140... Hatton loses to these boxers, period.

When Margarito starts beating guys who are a bit better than Golden Johnson then you can tell me those guys would beat Hatton.

[GunStar]

first time I see someone critizing box based on abit of facts.

But to be fair there is alway someone Floyd could have fought. If he fought Cotto they would say he should fight Hatton visa versa.

There is couple of factors in boxing you forgot:

Injuries: Even if you are fighting a less impressive oppenet there is alway a possiablity of career threaten injury to the hands.

Business and boxing politics: These things you cant really tell. Sometimes a fight looks good but it hard to make because you got to have acceptance of the ABC titles organization, HBO or Showtime, Promoters...etc many and many stuff that should accept. And fighter are only made couple of time per years and if you reach to the top you reduce it to 1 or 2 per year.

Good post my ****** brother!

[MaFu MoFo]

first time I see someone critizing box based on abit of facts.

But to be fair there is alway someone Floyd could have fought. If he fought Cotto they would say he should fight Hatton visa versa.

There is couple of factors in boxing you forgot:

Injuries: Even if you are fighting a less impressive oppenet there is alway a possiablity of career threaten injury to the hands.

Business and boxing politics: These things you cant really tell. Sometimes a fight looks good but it hard to make because you got to have acceptance of the ABC titles organization, HBO or Showtime, Promoters...etc many and many stuff that should accept. And fighter are only made couple of time per years and if you reach to the top you reduce it to 1 or 2 per year.

I agree with you, still this thread was to express an opinion. I believe that if MayWeather truely wants to be recognized as the best ever as he has stated before, he should take on better challenges. he is good, but he is putting money above his preofession, BOXING. I posted long ago on this issue on a thread tittled "Mayweather magic number is 3" I invite you to read it. MayWeather is talking the talk, i just want him to walk the walk too.

[eazy_mas]

Good post my ****** brother!

thanks.

People alway think making a fight is easy. I want you you want me then let get in the ring.

This is not amataurs or early prospect or contender fight they are p4p guy rated and there is alway the paper work and money issue invovle

[eazy_mas]

I agree with you, still this thread was to express an opinion. I believe that if MayWeather truely wants to be recognized as the best ever as he has stated before, he should take on better challenges. he is good, but he is putting money above his preofession, BOXING. I posted long ago on this issue on a thread tittled "Mayweather magic number is 3" I invite you to read it. MayWeather is talking the talk, i just want him to walk the walk too.

Mayweather is trying to make boxing more mainstream. He goes to Dance with the Star and stuff and does alot of talking because he wanna make himself a celebrity.

Yes it sometimes bad but it is also good for boxing because other fighters have exposure as well as there is more demand for boxing

[MaFu MoFo]

When Margarito starts beating guys who are a bit better than Golden Johnson then you can tell me those guys would beat Hatton.

I don't appreciate Margarito as my fellow Mexicans brothers do, BUT TO HIS CREDIT, Margarito has been public about wanting to fight bigger names. Too bad, his words has fallen on deaf ears.

Margarito in the other hand, took the Williams challenge like a man and did his best. Paul Williams outboxed him, period. But no matter how you turn my words upside down or sideways, Margarito will give Hatton a badass beating.

[GunStar]

thanks.

People alway think making a fight is easy. I want you you want me then let get in the ring.

This is not amataurs or early prospect or contender fight they are p4p guy rated and there is alway the paper work and money issue invovle

True and you can't fight everyone at the same time.

I swear if Mayweather beats Hatton, Cotto, Williams, Mosley and Maragrito, haters will say his resume is **** and he ducked Golden Johnson.

[nmuburner22]

When Margarito starts beating guys who are a bit better than Golden Johnson then you can tell me those guys would beat Hatton.

Go take the Hatton Fan Challenge then..I just broght it back up.

[nmuburner22]

True and you can't fight everyone at the same time.

I swear if Mayweather beats Hatton, Cotto, Williams, Mosley and Maragrito, haters will say his resume is **** and he ducked Golden Johnson.

naw they will say he ducked Berto and Joel Julio..I gurantee it..meanwhile Floyd would be 34 years old.

[Sin City]

MayWeather, Calderon & Guzman are boxers that some of you don't respect because of their styles. They have been call "runners", "chickens", "cowards", etc... even myself included.

Out of these 3, I don't have much respect for Joan Guzman because he does a great fight during the first 7-8-9 rounds and then runs. Agaisnt Soto, Guzman showed he was the fastest, most accurate, had more speed, the best one, period. I believed Guzman has the power to KO Soto. So instead of setting his rythm and better skills to knock Soto, he chose to run. During the last 2 rounds, Joan even turned his back to Soto. He really looked like he was running away from Soto. Pathetic. I don't know if it is his strategy to stay fresh for the future, but God knows he is good and should face better challengers to get my full respect.


In the other hand, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best P4P as seen by most experts, period. He got speed, fast accurate punching, decent power, but a questionable chin. Floyd has gotten used to winning by points rather than by KO. In the last couple of fights, after winning by TKO agaisnt Gatti, Mitchell and Bruiseles... he outboxed Judah and won fair and square. Then the last 2 fights, Baldomir and ODLH are way too different. I understand his running agaisnt ODLH, who may be washed off, but ODLH still got skills, experince and above average speed and power. Oscar could had KO Floyd. But the performance agaisnt Baldomir is a shame. Baldomir is hard to KO, that's a obvious one, still he could had a better fight agaisnt a far lesser opponent. I did not respected his performance agaisnt Baldomir nor I respect the way he picks opponenets that are less of a challenge. As long as Floyd keeps evading better opponents, he will have an asterisk next to his record and NO LEGACY.

Last but not least, Ivan "IronBoy" Calderon is undefeated after taking most of the available challenges out there. His fight agaisnt Cazeres was an excellent display of boxing. Cazeres was the bigger, the more powerful opponent in the bout. (arguably the best fighter too) Still, Calderon skills showed he was the better boxer. Ivan was like a bull rider that night and clearly won the fight. Last Staurday against Esquer, he had another great night. Esquer pressured Ivan the whole fight and he constantly outboxed Esquer. There were a few rounds where Calderon stood up and fouhgt, in others he simply became the "untouchable". It takes lots of boxing skills to make the opponent connect 6% of jabs and 18% of power punches, specially when the fighter is full speed ahead on your ass. The little boricua has done what Guzman and Mayweather had done so far, but in his case, Calderon has done it agaisnt the best competition out there. If he unifies the 108 division, that will count for a Leagacy.


No matter their styles, boxers should take advantage in what they do best. No matter if the fighter is a runner, a brawler, or has superior power or speed... as long as they face the best available opponents out there they should be respected, period. So critzy their styles and make solid opinions about it, just stop the hate because some fighters don't go for a KO.

It's obvious your dumbass has only seen ONE Joan Guzman fight..