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  • MaFu MoFo
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    #11
    Originally posted by GunStar
    After seeing the way Soto took his punches, hell ****ing no, Guzman does not have the power to KO Soto.


    Who has Mayweather ducked?? And how is Mayweather's chin is questionable?? How in the hell he will have an asterisk next to his record?


    I love Calderon but he is fighting in a weak division. If Mayweather and Guzman were Puerto Rican then you would've been proud of all 3 guys, it's seems to me that you're only proud of Calderon cause he's a Boricua.

    1) Ok, about Guzman, we basicly disagree on the Soto fight. No problema amiga.

    2) I really don't care on which team is stating the truth, but MayWeather had had the chance to fight Margarito and Cotto, but he never did. Instead he went for Baldomir and ODLH and then retire. Then he came back to fight Hatton at 147, where Hatton failed to make an impact agaisnt Collazo. I am not a hater, but those are facts we can't deny nor ignore. I don't remember where, but I read Floyd said he won't fight Cotto, who clearly is the best out there after Mayweather.

    About the chin, well he has not been connected badly in his last 5 fights. Judah did hurt him and Judah don't got the most powerful punch out there. Maybe, I am just a little disappointed on Floyds last couple of fights and decisions. Maybe, my mind is clouded because of it. Maybe, you are right.... then again, you might be also wrong. Let's freeze this one up until the 8th and what to see what happens with Floyd. Only time will tell who is right.

    3) The division is NOT THAT WEAK, it is understimate and not as exposed as other heavier divisions. Anyway, if you are 108 pouns facing a 120 pounds opponent who fights like a raging bull and you win by decision, you are very good of a fighter, who deserves the most respect. No matter your ethnic background.

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    • nmuburner22
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      #12
      Who has Floyd evaded???

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      • MaFu MoFo
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        #13
        Originally posted by -Hyperion-
        i respect them all....i like all of them to certain degree...and i think highly of Mayweather's, Guzman's and Calderon's skill......however i dislike the praise they get.......especially Claderon who is the one who plays defense the most IMO and gets hit more cleanly than the other two against lesser caliber fighters...not to mention the fact that he has not looked good at all in my eyes against the wild as **** cazares, a razor thin decision against Barrera and a harder than expected fight against esquer..honestly i wouldnt have a problem with him if people didnt blow his accomplishments and skill out of proportion......i think edgar sosa will KO him easily...
        Definitely, The SoSa fight will be huge. But then again, what if Caldron wins again??? What will your reaction be???

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        • tito yuca
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          #14
          Originally posted by -Hyperion-
          Claderon who is the one who plays defense the most IMO and gets hit more cleanly than the other two against lesser caliber fighters...not to mention the fact that he has not looked good at all in my eyes against the wild as **** cazares, a razor thin decision against Barrera and a harder than expected fight against esquer..honestly i wouldnt have a problem with him if people didnt blow his accomplishments and skill out of proportion
          I could not agree more with all this. Well said.

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            #15
            haha....this thread backfired.........................

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              #16
              Originally posted by MaFu MoFo
              Definitely, The SoSa fight will be huge. But then again, what if Caldron wins again??? What will your reaction be???
              sosa is a very good fighter IMO the best at 108...and i will give calderon credit, like i always do, if he beats him.......its not so much that i dont give him credit now my dislike to him is more because i think other people give him too much credit........without beating at least sosa and solis, he shouldnt even be mentioned in the p4p rankings....

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                #17
                Originally posted by tito yuca
                Well, you critized Mayweather a lot, and almost everything you said about Calderon and Guzman was positive. I recognize they are skilled, but they are both very overrated and do not deserve to be anywhere near a P4P list. You say Calderon has the most heart and courage, and there is no way of knowing this, because Floyd has never been in trouble like Calderon has. You also said Floyd has a questionable chin and this is ludicrous, he always fights with bigger men and has never been knocked down in his career. Not even against guys who outweigh him by 15-20 have been able to hurt him.

                Calderon just fought a dude who was ranked 47 by boxrec. FORTY SEVEN. Floyd's last three fights have been Baldomir (#1 at 147), Oscar (#1 at 154) and Hatton (# at 140) and you say HE is the one who is fighting lesser opponents? Give me a break.

                Yuca, Mayweather is the best P4P, why bother spending a paragraph stating the obvious. I will cut my cojones and stick them down my throat if Baldomir is the numero uino at 147 like you posted. BALDOMIR IS A BUM WITH ACROMEGALY WHO JUDAH UNDERESTIMATED AND HAD A BAD FIGHT AGAISNT. ODLH was already down the hill when they fought. There are at least 10 boxers out there that can beat Hatton any given Saturday. I want to see Mayweather fight as much as you do. I like his fights. I just want to see him facing Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams... boxers that will give Floyd a good run for the money fans put up when we buy the ****ing PPVs.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MaFu MoFo
                  Yuca, Mayweather is the best P4P, why bother spending a paragraph stating the obvious. I will cut my cojones and stick them down my throat if Baldomir is the numero uino at 147 like you posted. BALDOMIR IS A BUM WITH ACROMEGALY WHO JUDAH UNDERESTIMATED AND HAD A BAD FIGHT AGAISNT. ODLH was already down the hill when they fought. There are at least 10 boxers out there that can beat Hatton any given Saturday. I want to see Mayweather fight as much as you do. I like his fights. I just want to see him facing Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams... boxers that will give Floyd a good run for the money fans put up when we buy the ****ing PPVs.
                  What has Margarito done to prove he is better than Ricky Hatton?

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                  • MaFu MoFo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                    sosa is a very good fighter IMO the best at 108...and i will give calderon credit, like i always do, if he beats him.......its not so much that i dont give him credit now my dislike to him is more because i think other people give him too much credit........without beating at least sosa and solis, he shouldnt even be mentioned in the p4p rankings....
                    I agree with you. Sosa and Solis should be his next 2 fights. Great fights indeed. I did not know Calderon was so respected as you say. It was my impression that Guzman, Calderon and MayWeather were getting more hate than admiration. Then again, we are entittle to our opinions and I respect that.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mozza
                      What has Margarito done to prove he is better than Ricky Hatton?
                      So you will take Hatton vs. Maragrito. What do you use??? Monopoly fake money???

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