Who faced better comp at WW? Floyd or Cotto?

[robjr]

I say Cotto.

[quntel]

why do you care about how much money mayweather makes?? if you were a real boxing fan you would want to see the best fight the best but you are a nuthugger and fan of a coward so you dont care about seeing a good fight.

and this thread has to be a joke because its not even close. mitchell is a bum. he even got knocked out by mayweather who has no power. baldomir is a bum and judah lost to baldomir which makes him a bum and a joke.

i STATED THOSE FACT TO try to informed you why cotto has no relevance ....

No matter who floyd fights in the
Welther Weight, Junior Welther Weight, Junior Middle Weight divisions

He will not get respect or credit for with you boxing fans.... Because their will always be an excuse to why he won insted of a REASON

SO if you are floyd Mayweather and you know you not going to get the respect... or credit ...


then why not get the Money.. and that is what he is doing...

(this theory is proven because look at his resume of fighter he fought and when he fought them and tell me how he doesnt get credit for that)

do you understand you so called boxing fan....

[VIVA MEXICO!!!]

Also, this question qualifies as a red herring since Floyd had to move up in weight to face De La Hoya, while he was still a WW. Therefore, if we're to assess level of comp over the time period specified, (the time period over which Mayweather and Cotto were active welter weights), one must include DLH and Hatton.

So we have...


* Oscar DLH vs. Shane Mosley (I say tie)
* Fresh Zab Juah > Rusty Zab Judah (advantage to Floyd)
* Carlos Baldomir vs. Carlos Quintana (advantage to Floyd for facing THE current world champion)
* Oktay Urkal vs. Sharmba Mitchell (advantage to Floyd for facing a more talented fighter and former Champ)

Ricky Hatton vs. someone Cotto isn't scheduled to face yet..

Floyd wins..

mosley already beat dlh so advantage cotto
quintana would beat baldomir if they fought
urkal would beat mitchell if they fought

stop supporting a coward. you are a pathetic joke and your mom isis should be ashamed of having such a coward nuthugging child.

[FightNight 2007]

It's not close.

Quintana > Mitchell

Mosley >>> Baldy

Advantage Cotto.

word........

[sonofisis]

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mosley already beat dlh so advantage cotto

Styles make fights, DLH won the second fight and has accomplished more in his career, so if anything, the advantage goes to Mayweather.

quintana would beat baldomir if they fought

That's your own biased opinion based on nothing whatsoever because while Baldomir was world champion, this nobody wasn't even ranked. Baldomir would **** on him with ease.

urkal would beat mitchell if they fought

Urkal, like you, is a joke. Sharmba again, was a two time world champion, while Urkal is just some guy who got his ass handed to him by Tszyu who never accomplished anything in the sport. Nothing there to suggest that he'd beat anybody but completely over-the-hill bums and fringe contenders.

stop supporting a coward.

I don't support you at all and actually, the biggest coward in boxing in my truly honest opinion, is Cintron. Watch the Marg fight..


Now what about Hatton? You're obviously outgunned..

[VIVA MEXICO!!!]

i STATED THOSE FACT TO try to informed you why cotto has no relevance ....

No matter who floyd fights in the
Welther Weight, Junior Welther Weight, Junior Middle Weight divisions

He will not get respect or credit for with you boxing fans.... Because their will always be an excuse to why he won insted of a REASON

SO if you are floyd Mayweather and you know you not going to get the respect... or credit ...


then why not get the Money.. and that is what he is doing...

(this theory is proven because look at his resume of fighter he fought and when he fought them and tell me how he doesnt get credit for that)

do you understand you so called boxing fan....

if its about the money why did he turn down margarito for the biggest payday of his life?? mayweather is just a coward plain and simple. cotto would bring more money than baldomir or judah did.

[sonofisis]

THEY IS NO MONEY IN COTTO !

Floyd already does not get respect for non of his victories....
So it will be the same with Cotto

if floyd beats COTTO.. SO WHAT....He suppose to beat cotto he is P4P the best fighter in this generation....
AND after he beats COTTO you cotto nuthuggers will say well..............
"HE CANT BEAT WHOEVER YOU LIKE AT THE MOMENT"

THEY IS NO PPV IN COTTO THATS WHY HE PICK HATTON...

"COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"



All the Other PPV floyd is not in:
MOSLEY VS. COTTO probably 300,000 PPV

Vargas vs. May : Probably 150,000 PPV

Hopkins vs. Wright = they did 300,000 PPV
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

Pacman vs. Barrera 2 =they did 350,000
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

JMM vs MAB = They Did 225,000 PPV BUYS
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 PPV BUYS
Cotto suppose to be ABLE TO sold out ****...
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)
or have a bigger fan base than floyd...where are they at..??

"COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"
NUMBER DONT LIE..

This what Floyd means when he says their is no money in cotto...


Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
(http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
(http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

YOU MEAN TO tell me
Cotto vs. Judah
Hopkins vs. Wright
JMM VS. MAB

is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"

Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto




Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
(4TH ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....Baldomir : $16.3 million
Judah: 15.7 million
Gatti: 15. 3 Million
De La hoya: $120.0 million

Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
Totol Money: 57.4 Million
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....

Floyd still Wins...

After all those STATS:
what the hell you think he is going to do with HATTON....

You mean to tell me AFTER COMING OFF A 2 MILLION PPV with Oscar PPV that Floyd is not at least going to DO 900,000 ppv is Crazy



This PPV is not Going Under 900,00 PPV

Excellent break down.. I agree.. Cotto will get bigger with time though, he just doesn't have the same pull as someone like Floyd or Hatton..

[quntel]

if its about the money why did he turn down margarito for the biggest payday of his life?? mayweather is just a coward plain and simple. cotto would bring more money than baldomir or judah did.

Floyd turn down 8 million to make 10 million with baldomir...Pretty ****** Huh...

AND IF YOU SUPPORT MARGARITO READ THIS:

This easily sums up the so called Margarito lovers. The majority of them didnt even like or care about Margarito until all this Floyd **** happened. They just hated Floyd so much and it was finally like God sent Margarito down to step up to Floyd.

Everyone hated Floyd but they knew that couldnt anyone beat him even if they wanted him to lose. If Floyd wouldve called out Margarito and made a fight then it wouldnt even be a big deal. People would be talking about it as a regular average fight that Floyd would be heavily favored in. Most of them wouldve actually said that Floyd is again hand picking a nobody who hasnt beaten anyone and only has a vacant belt and again another guy coming off a loss.

That fight wouldve got no hype at all but Floyd didnt do that. Margarito came to Floyd and Floyd turned it down. All the Floyd haters jumped up and said "YES, this is our hero, someone who will stand up to Floyd". Knowning that Floyd wouldnt take the fight then they can say anything they want about him being scared & a fraud who knows that Margarito will kill him when the truth is that they wouldve never killed or made a big deal about this fight if Floyd had called out Margarito from the jump.

Let me ask all of you this? How come I dont remember hearing anyone saying before the Zab or Mitchell fight, "I cant wait for this to be over so Floyd can fight Margarito"?

No one said that ****. No one cared about Margarito or that fight. Even after Baldy beat Zab no one said, "ok Floyd can fight Margarito now". Everyone ripped Floyd and said that he should be fighting Baldy instead of Zab because Baldy is the real champ. No one gave a **** about Margarito or that fight. If Floyd wouldve fought Margarito right after Baldy beat Zab then everyone wouldve called Floyd a ***** for fighting Margarito and said how he is handpicking another guy who just lost, has a fake title, and he will be heavily favored against.

If Floyd wouldve jumped straight on a Margarito fight then this fight would be getting no hype & no fans would be all on Margarito except for handfull. Floyd turned the fight down and the Legend of Margarito grew because so many people hate Floyd & they finaly have a something they can stand on against him. All anyone talked about was Floyd vs Zab, Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, or Shane. Baldy beat Zab and everyone said that Floyd should fight Baldy and he's a ***** if he doesnt. I strictly remember when Floyd was at 140 and talking about moving up, I read so many articles about how great a fight between Floyd & Zab would be. Before Zab beat Spinks everyone was talking about a Floyd-Spinks superfight. No media person or fan gave a **** about Margarito or thought it was a big fight. ****, half the media guys who rip him are Mexican & half the fans are Mexican, or Euros who are Hatton freaks.

Now look how things change? You guys are just pure haters who ride the wagon. Never before in history has a guy been criticzed for not taking a fight against a guy with Margarito's resume and it still wouldve never happened but Floyd turned it down and here comes the sharks. You guys are pathetic. Now Margarito is your hero when none of you gave a **** about him 1st or thought that he was a special opponent for Floyd or thought that it was a big fight, or thought that he could win. Its a joke and you should be ashamed of yourselves

[Jim Jeffries]

THEY IS NO MONEY IN COTTO !

Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto

Gee, but Floyd fought Baldomir DIDN'T HE????

[RAESAAD]

Floyd: Mitchell/Judah/Baldomir

Cotto: Quintana/Judah/Mosley

Cotto easily....nevermind Quintana....thats just topping on the cake.