Who faced better comp at WW? Floyd or Cotto?

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  • El Jesus
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    #111
    Originally posted by -Antonio-
    Ok so now we're in mid December? Last I checked Hatton hasnt lost yet.
    i am not sure if people on this site are ready to concede that hatton was a 147lber, even if both him and floyd campaigned at 140, either way cotto has faced better opposition at 147, but when it comes to mosley, i think we both know why him and floyd didint fight, but beside that, cotto has the edge.

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    • MaFu MoFo
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      #112
      Originally posted by deevel79
      Floyd: Mitchell/Judah/Baldomir

      Cotto: Quintana/Judah/Mosley

      It's too obvious... (Cotto)

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        #113
        Originally posted by Black Jesus
        i am not sure if people on this site are ready to concede that hatton was a 147lber, even if both him and floyd campaigned at 140, either way cotto has faced better opposition at 147, but when it comes to mosley, i think we both know why him and floyd didint fight, but beside that, cotto has the edge.
        Cotto only has an edge due to the biased terms of this thread, laid out 3 days after Cotto fights Mosley, while not taking into consideration that Floyd also took a fight at light middle, while he was still a Welter. During this campaign, he fought..

        Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, and De La Hoya

        Cotto fought

        Urkal, Quintana, Judah, and Mosley


        Add Hatton into this equation, and not only is Cotto outnumbered, but the quality of opposition is far superior. Of course Quintana is an unproven prospect who's never showed that he has what it takes to become a Champ and Urkal was a fringe contender who also never won a title and most likely never will. Everyone on Floyd's list are former champs..

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          #114
          Originally posted by ANTONIM
          i think you just opened up a can of worms that's gonna catch you alot of fish.
          quintana is better mitchell
          mosley is better than baldo
          you could argue judah was a better judah vs mosley
          but i don't believe that
          if anything the rest did judah some good.
          Long layoffs affect EVERY fighter. That being said Cotto has faced the better comp. Add Ricky to the mix and it becomes a closer competition.

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          • MaFu MoFo
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            #115
            Originally posted by deevel79
            Ok, if there is no money in fighting Cotto, then why does he want to fight the winner of Cintron/Williams???


            Because Floyd runs away from real challengers... There is much less money on Cintron and Williams.


            Originally posted by quntel
            TO MAKE IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE:

            there is no money in cotto PERIOD.

            No Money = Equal Cotto fase base is poor Puerto Ricans would dont buy PPV...

            Which is true be the number of PPV that Cotto does...

            Puertorricans actually go and fill the Madison Square Gardens at capacity. It was a record when Cotto fighted Judah.



            If Floyd really wants to be TREULY RESPECTED as the real the Best P4P he MUST FIGHT COTTO, end of the story... I am out!!!!
            Last edited by MaFu MoFo; 11-13-2007, 08:05 PM. Reason: MISTAKES

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            • El Jesus
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              #116
              Originally posted by MaFu MoFo
              Because Floyd runs away from real challengers... There is much less money on Cintron and Williams.
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              that is ****ing ****** to say that floyd is running away from real challanges, then you mention cintron and williams like they are just the lower ends of the division, come on man.

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                #117
                Floyd wants to unify the division he want's Cintron/Williams winner because they have two belts. A fight with the last belt holder HAS to happen and if Cotto has that belt then the fight has to get done.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                  Floyd wants to unify the division he want's Cintron/Williams winner because they have two belts. A fight with the last belt holder HAS to happen and if Cotto has that belt then the fight has to get done.
                  I seriously doubt this.....he wants $$$ it's clear he cares little bout what we, the fans think about him....he wants names for his legacy and cash for his wallet....while I really don't like Floyd in general....one has to respect his skill and business savy.

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                  • sonofisis
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by RAESAAD
                    I seriously doubt this.....he wants $$$ it's clear he cares little bout what we, the fans think about him....
                    In my view, a real fan wouldn't impose outrageous demands on a fighter that would cause them to overexert themselves, and ultimately harm themselves. Demands like the insistence that it is NECESSARY that one must win titles in 5 different weight classes and remain undefeated for 10 years, in addition to fighting every single new face that enters the picture in your settled weight class in order to be "fan worthy".

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                      #120
                      [QUOTE=quntel;2837391]Floyd turn down 8 million to make 10 million with baldomir...Pretty ****** Huh...

                      AND IF YOU SUPPORT MARGARITO READ THIS:


                      This easily sums up the so called Margarito lovers. The majority of them didnt even like or care about Margarito until all this Floyd **** happened. They just hated Floyd so much and it was finally like God sent Margarito down to step up to Floyd.

                      Everyone hated Floyd but they knew that couldnt anyone beat him even if they wanted him to lose. If Floyd wouldve called out Margarito and made a fight then it wouldnt even be a big deal. People would be talking about it as a regular average fight that Floyd would be heavily favored in. Most of them wouldve actually said that Floyd is again hand picking a nobody who hasnt beaten anyone and only has a vacant belt and again another guy coming off a loss.

                      That fight wouldve got no hype at all but Floyd didnt do that. Margarito came to Floyd and Floyd turned it down. All the Floyd haters jumped up and said "YES, this is our hero, someone who will stand up to Floyd". Knowning that Floyd wouldnt take the fight then they can say anything they want about him being scared & a fraud who knows that Margarito will kill him when the truth is that they wouldve never killed or made a big deal about this fight if Floyd had called out Margarito from the jump.

                      Let me ask all of you this? How come I dont remember hearing anyone saying before the Zab or Mitchell fight, "I cant wait for this to be over so Floyd can fight Margarito"?

                      No one said that ****. No one cared about Margarito or that fight. Even after Baldy beat Zab no one said, "ok Floyd can fight Margarito now". Everyone ripped Floyd and said that he should be fighting Baldy instead of Zab because Baldy is the real champ. No one gave a **** about Margarito or that fight. If Floyd wouldve fought Margarito right after Baldy beat Zab then everyone wouldve called Floyd a ***** for fighting Margarito and said how he is handpicking another guy who just lost, has a fake title, and he will be heavily favored against.

                      If Floyd wouldve jumped straight on a Margarito fight then this fight would be getting no hype & no fans would be all on Margarito except for handfull. Floyd turned the fight down and the Legend of Margarito grew because so many people hate Floyd & they finaly have a something they can stand on against him. All anyone talked about was Floyd vs Zab, Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, or Shane. Baldy beat Zab and everyone said that Floyd should fight Baldy and he's a ***** if he doesnt. I strictly remember when Floyd was at 140 and talking about moving up, I read so many articles about how great a fight between Floyd & Zab would be. Before Zab beat Spinks everyone was talking about a Floyd-Spinks superfight. No media person or fan gave a **** about Margarito or thought it was a big fight. ****, half the media guys who rip him are Mexican & half the fans are Mexican, or Euros who are Hatton freaks.

                      Now look how things change? You guys are just pure haters who ride the wagon. Never before in history has a guy been criticzed for not taking a fight against a guy with Margarito's resume and it still wouldve never happened but Floyd turned it down and here comes the sharks. You guys are pathetic. Now Margarito is your hero when none of you gave a **** about him 1st or thought that he was a special opponent for Floyd or thought that it was a big fight, or thought that he could win. Its a joke and you should be ashamed of yourselves
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                      It's bad enough that Floyd would rather go for the bigger amount of money than fighting the best opponents out there, but when the fans that are getting ****ed over for this and start justifying(in your bolded point) for a fighter to take the money instead of better opposition than boxing has an even bigger problem. This is part of the reason a lot of fans get turned off from boxing and look to other things such as the UFC. This is why boxing takes so much criticism, and other than hard core fans not many people follow boxing.

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