Who faced better comp at WW? Floyd or Cotto?

[quntel]

WHy would floyd fight Cotto

THEY IS NO MONEY IN COTTO !

Floyd already does not get respect for non of his victories....
So it will be the same with Cotto

if floyd beats COTTO.. SO WHAT....He suppose to beat cotto he is P4P the best fighter in this generation....
AND after he beats COTTO you cotto nuthuggers will say well..............
"HE CANT BEAT WHOEVER YOU LIKE AT THE MOMENT"

THEY IS NO PPV IN COTTO THATS WHY HE PICK HATTON...

"COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"



All the Other PPV floyd is not in:
MOSLEY VS. COTTO probably 300,000 PPV

Vargas vs. May : Probably 150,000 PPV

Hopkins vs. Wright = they did 300,000 PPV
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

Pacman vs. Barrera 2 =they did 350,000
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

JMM vs MAB = They Did 225,000 PPV BUYS
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 PPV BUYS
Cotto suppose to be ABLE TO sold out ****...
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)
or have a bigger fan base than floyd...where are they at..??

"COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"
NUMBER DONT LIE..

This what Floyd means when he says their is no money in cotto...


Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
(http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
(http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

YOU MEAN TO tell me
Cotto vs. Judah
Hopkins vs. Wright
JMM VS. MAB

is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"

Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto




Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
(4TH ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....Baldomir : $16.3 million
Judah: 15.7 million
Gatti: 15. 3 Million
De La hoya: $120.0 million

Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
Totol Money: 57.4 Million
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....

Floyd still Wins...

After all those STATS:
what the hell you think he is going to do with HATTON....

You mean to tell me AFTER COMING OFF A 2 MILLION PPV with Oscar PPV that Floyd is not at least going to DO 900,000 ppv is Crazy



This PPV is not Going Under 900,00 PPV

[old68]

Dude, Baldomir is like... the #1 nobody. At least quintana was an undefeated champ and not some journeyman BUM that, to his credit, stealthed the title away from an overconfident and unsuspecting Judah.

The truth of the matter is that barring ODLH and maybe Mosley, Cotto is the biggest $$$ fight for Floyd right now (post-Hatton).

[Pugilistic™]

cotto's opposition so far are better.

[deevel79]

THEY IS NO MONEY IN COTTO !

OR

They is no respect either... if floyd beats COTTO.. SO WHAT....He suppose to beat cotto he is P4P the best fighter in this generation....
AND after he beats COTTO you cotto nuthuggers will say well..............
"HE CANT BEAT WHOEVER YOU LIKE AT THE MOMENT"

THEY IS NO PPV IN COTTO THATS WHY HE PICK HATTON...





All the Other PPV floyd is not in:
MOSLEY VS. COTTO probably 300,000 PPV

Vargas vs. May : Probably 150,000 PPV

Hopkins vs. Wright = they did 300,000 PPV
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

Pacman vs. Barrera 2 =they did 350,000
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

JMM vs MAB = They Did 225,000 PPV BUYS
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 PPV BUYS
Cotto suppose to be big as Floyd...
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)
or have a bigger fan base than floyd...where are they at..??
NUMBER DONT LIE..

This what Floyd means when he says their is no money in cotto...


Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
(http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
(http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

YOU MEAN TO tell me
Cotto vs. Judah
Hopkins vs. Wright
JMM VS. MAB

is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"

Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto


Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
(4TH ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....Baldomir : $16.3 million
Judah: 15.7 million
Gatti: 15. 3 Million
De La hoya: $120.0 million

Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
Totol Money: 57.4 Million
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....

Floyd still Wins...

After all those STATS:
what the hell you think he is going to do with HATTON....

You mean to tell me AFTER COMING OFF A 2 MILLION PPV with Oscar PPV that Floyd is not at least going to DO 900,000 ppv is Crazy



This PPV is not Going Under 900,00 PPV

Ok, if there is no money in fighting Cotto, then why does he want to fight the winner of Cintron/Williams???

[AntonTheMeh]

THEY IS NO MONEY IN COTTO !

OR

They is no respect either... if floyd beats COTTO.. SO WHAT....He suppose to beat cotto he is P4P the best fighter in this generation....
AND after he beats COTTO you cotto nuthuggers will say well..............
"HE CANT BEAT WHOEVER YOU LIKE AT THE MOMENT"

THEY IS NO PPV IN COTTO THATS WHY HE PICK HATTON...





All the Other PPV floyd is not in:
MOSLEY VS. COTTO probably 300,000 PPV

Vargas vs. May : Probably 150,000 PPV

Hopkins vs. Wright = they did 300,000 PPV
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

Pacman vs. Barrera 2 =they did 350,000
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

JMM vs MAB = They Did 225,000 PPV BUYS
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 PPV BUYS
Cotto suppose to be big as Floyd...
(http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)
or have a bigger fan base than floyd...where are they at..??
NUMBER DONT LIE..

This what Floyd means when he says their is no money in cotto...


Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
(http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
(http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

YOU MEAN TO tell me
Cotto vs. Judah
Hopkins vs. Wright
JMM VS. MAB

is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"

Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto


Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
(4TH ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....Baldomir : $16.3 million
Judah: 15.7 million
Gatti: 15. 3 Million
De La hoya: $120.0 million

Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
Totol Money: 57.4 Million
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....

Floyd still Wins...

After all those STATS:
what the hell you think he is going to do with HATTON....

You mean to tell me AFTER COMING OFF A 2 MILLION PPV with Oscar PPV that Floyd is not at least going to DO 900,000 ppv is Crazy



This PPV is not Going Under 900,00 PPV

you can throw all the numbers you want to throw around fact is ppv numbers don't make you great period.ali went after the best and beat them floyd will never be the greatest for that simple reason,his hunger is for money not glory.

i can you big letters too.

[quntel]

what do you mean make you great..??

Floyd is already great...!

now its time to go for the money....


Let's face it..!! besides the fact that Cotto works for Arum and Floyd hates Arum for basically not Letting Floyd fight Oscar or sHane or Cotto or Tito when he wanted too EARLIER IN HIS CARRER.


THIS IS WHAT REALLY PISS FLOYD OFF:

Arum gave tito and shane to Oscar because it made for a bigger PPV

because floyd called out Tito and shane before Oscar did

and finally for not Paying him the money he deserve....
AND PUTTING HIM ON PPV EARLIER


SO NOW FLOYD IS DOING WHAT MAKES FOR BIG NAME BIGGER PPV ....

Which is Smart because look what it did for oscar and his legacy

"oScar is known for fighting all the best fighters in this generation..."

oscar fought all the best and he also lost to all the best but it MADE HUGE PPV MONEY.... because BOB ARUM gave oscar those fights Over Floyd....

and floyd had to fight the best of the rest while Oscar gets the credit for the

things that floyd wanted to do FIRST...

wHICH is evident in the year 1999-2004 wHILE BOTH WERE UDER TOP RANKED...

Floyd called out shane in 1999

shane fought Oscar in 2000

BULL**** ...

TO MAKE IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE:

there is no money in cotto PERIOD.

No Money = Equal Cotto fase base is poor Puerto Ricans would dont buy PPV...

Which is true be the number of PPV that Cotto does...

[AntonTheMeh]

what do you mean make you great..??

Floyd is already great...!

now its time to go for the money....


Let's face it..!! besides the fact that Cotto works for Arum and Floyd hates Arum for basically not Letting Floyd fight Oscar or sHane or Cotto or Tito when he wanted too EARLIER IN HIS CARRER.


THIS IS WHAT REALLY PISS FLOYD OFF:

Arum gave tito and shane to Oscar because it made for a bigger PPV

because floyd called out Tito and shane before Oscar did

and finally for not Paying him the money he deserve....
AND PUTTING HIM ON PPV EARLIER


SO NOW FLOYD IS DOING WHAT MAKES FOR BIG NAME BIGGER PPV ....

Which is Smart because look what it did for oscar and his legacy

"oScar is known for fighting all the best fighters in this generation..."

oscar fought all the best and he also lost to all the best but it MADE HUGE PPV MONEY.... because BOB ARUM gave oscar those fights Over Floyd....

and floyd had to fight the best of the rest while Oscar gets the credit for the

things that floyd wanted to do FIRST...

wHICH is evident in the year 1999-2004 wHILE BOTH WERE UDER TOP RANKED...

Floyd called out shane in 1999

shane fought Oscar in 2000

BULL**** ...

TO MAKE IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE:

there is no money in cotto PERIOD.

No Money = Equal Cotto fase base is poor Puerto Ricans would dont buy PPV...

Which is true be the number of PPV that Cotto does...

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[quntel]

The Truth Sucks Dont It...

[VIVA MEXICO!!!]

what do you mean make you great..??

Floyd is already great...!

now its time to go for the money....


Let's face it..!! besides the fact that Cotto works for Arum and Floyd hates Arum for basically not Letting Floyd fight Oscar or sHane or Cotto or Tito when he wanted too EARLIER IN HIS CARRER.


THIS IS WHAT REALLY PISS FLOYD OFF:

Arum gave tito and shane to Oscar because it made for a bigger PPV

because floyd called out Tito and shane before Oscar did

and finally for not Paying him the money he deserve....
AND PUTTING HIM ON PPV EARLIER


SO NOW FLOYD IS DOING WHAT MAKES FOR BIG NAME BIGGER PPV ....

Which is Smart because look what it did for oscar and his legacy

"oScar is known for fighting all the best fighters in this generation..."

oscar fought all the best and he also lost to all the best but it MADE HUGE PPV MONEY.... because BOB ARUM gave oscar those fights Over Floyd....

and floyd had to fight the best of the rest while Oscar gets the credit for the

things that floyd wanted to do FIRST...

wHICH is evident in the year 1999-2004 wHILE BOTH WERE UDER TOP RANKED...

Floyd called out shane in 1999

shane fought Oscar in 2000

BULL**** ...

TO MAKE IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE:

there is no money in cotto PERIOD.

No Money = Equal Cotto fase base is poor Puerto Ricans would dont buy PPV...

Which is true be the number of PPV that Cotto does...

why do you care about how much money mayweather makes?? if you were a real boxing fan you would want to see the best fight the best but you are a nuthugger and fan of a coward so you dont care about seeing a good fight.

and this thread has to be a joke because its not even close. mitchell is a bum. he even got knocked out by mayweather who has no power. baldomir is a bum and judah lost to baldomir which makes him a bum and a joke.

[sonofisis]

Also, this question qualifies as a red herring since Floyd had to move up in weight to face De La Hoya, while he was still a WW. Therefore, if we're to assess level of comp over the time period specified, (the time period over which Mayweather and Cotto were active welter weights), one must include DLH and Hatton.

So we have...


* Oscar DLH vs. Shane Mosley (I say tie)
* Fresh Zab Juah > Rusty Zab Judah (advantage to Floyd)
* Carlos Baldomir vs. Carlos Quintana (advantage to Floyd for facing THE current world champion)
* Oktay Urkal vs. Sharmba Mitchell (advantage to Floyd for facing a more talented fighter and former Champ)

Ricky Hatton vs. someone Cotto isn't scheduled to face yet..

Floyd wins..