Does anyone have a good argument for Cotto?

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  • -Antonio-
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    #11
    To me the only area age may factor in is Mosley's ability to withstand an all out war. At 36, his speed and pop are still there. We saw what Calzaghe just did at 35. In today's age where boxers dont fight as often, the development of training techniques, and supplements, age is not as much as an issue for the bigger fighters.

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    • El Dominicano
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      #12
      Originally posted by toincito
      For Cotto to win, he will have to GET INSIDE. Sure, he'll get some hits, naturally, but if he's inside, and most likely he will be the one pushing Mosley backwards, once Mosley jumps away and jabs, pressure him at that second to the body, rinse and repeat. If Cotto manages to stay inside, and push Mosley backward, he'll win.
      COTTO'S LEGS!!!! COTTO NEEDS STRONGER LEGS!!! LETS HOPE THEY ARE STRONG ENOUGH!!!!!

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      • Addison
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        #13
        Originally posted by tito yuca
        I believe Mosley's speed and power as of now are overrated by the majority of users in this forum. He could not hurt a one-handed Collazo who was dropped by Ricky Hatton. Apart from Vargas (who has had extensive health issues), he has not KOd a good opponent in quite some time. Cotto, with his resilience, heart, and stamina, has shown that he has more than what it takes to stand up to whatever amount of punishment he receives. Ricardo Torres and Zab Judah have just as much, if not more, punching power than Shane right now. Cotto took FLUSH shots from them, always appearing to be hurt, yet in both cases he went on to destroy them. So that, in my opinion, makes it clear that Shane will not knock him out, because Miguel has shown he can withstand punishment from big punchers.

        Even in the first Vargas fight, we saw that against a pressure fighter, Shane can have some problems. Cotto hits much harder than Vargas ever did, especially to the body. He always comes forward and has shown he can adapt exceptionally well to other boxers' styles, which is why I belive he will stalk and hurt Shane just like he has every other opponent he has faced.

        Cotto is a relentless body puncher with tremendous power. Like that dude said in Rocky 4 regarding Ivan Drago, "whatever he hits, he destroys". Look at every guy Cotto has fought, and every single one of them got the worst beating in their career against him. Shane is gonna be a game opponent, no doubt about that, but ever since this fight began being discussed I have felt that Cotto would win because of everything I just explained here.
        Fine post, TY. But out of respect for the facts I'll say I few things..

        Collazo has a good sturdy chin. He's had a previous TKO but Luis himself went on record claiming that that fight was stopped prematurely. Passionately so.

        Hatton caught Collazo blind with a momentum/balance shot and it was nothing more than a flash knockdown. Mosley also knocked Collazo down under roughly similiar circumstances only Shane did it in the late rounds. So Hatton is not at all one over on Mosley. Shane DID hurt Collazo in fact.. But Collazo is game. He was HURT though, no doubt about it.

        Also, Collazo was not one handed for ****. He broke his thumb. Thumbs are isolated in the gloves and do not hinder a fighters ability to make a fist. It was a lukewarm EXCUSE from Collazo. I don't blame him.. Luis is a damn good fighter and obviously no pushover. People forget overnight that he basically beat Hatton and got robbed.. Or so it has been said.

        In general; Mosley hasn't KO'd guys in the period you refer to because of the size of the gloves and the obvious fact that the guys he was fighting had very good chins. These are guys who have barely been knocked out for the most part. The details are significant when it comes to this issue.

        I'll tell you one thing.. ALL of those guys are harder to hurt than Cotto.

        People can talk about Diaz, Cruz, Estrada, all they want.

        Cotto is the drunken dancer. Not them.
        Last edited by Addison; 11-08-2007, 03:55 AM.

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        • F-22 Raptor
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          #14
          Cotto FTW!!!

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          • Addison
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            #15
            It's sad to what a small group of us here it is that care about this great fight. The majority are all on this Hopkins/Calzaghe thing that will take place half a year from now.. Where are the Boxing fans at??!!

            This is THE fight.

            I don't get it..

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            • WLAD OWNS
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              #16
              Originally posted by Matt Marvelous
              I haven't seen one. Even the guys picking him to win seem to only point out that Shane is 36 and has to slow down sometime. I've seen a ton of great points in Mosley's favor - "he's faster, stronger, a better boxer, better chin, etc..." Is it just that there is no good argument for Cotto? Does Shane really have to get old overnight to lose here? I want to hear why the people picking Cotto think he'll win.
              Now that you mention it, I really haven't heard any good argument for Cotto. All I ever hear is "Mosley is too old", "Cotto is a young lion", "Cotto is a God", "I have a man crush on Cotto", "Cotto is on the same level as Trinidad", "Cotto will easily KO Mosley", "I gave Cotto head last night". If I got a dime for every time I heard one of those quotes I would be a multi ****in millionaire.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Addison
                It's sad to what a small group of us here it is that care about this great fight. The majority are all on this Hopkins/Calzaghe thing that will take place half a year from now.. Where are the Boxing fans at??!!

                This is THE fight.

                I don't get it..
                Sadly, I agree. This forum has been clogged up with Hatton/Mayweather threads for months and the better fight between Mosley and Cotto has been overshadowed. People don't seem to understand that Mosley is a more exciting version of Mayweather and Cotto is a more exciting version of Hatton, this will result in a potential fight of the year. Don't you worry Addison, when the fight is over people will be talking and the forum will be full of threads like "Mosley owned Cotto", "Cotto has been exposed", "Mosley proved he is one of the all time greats", etc.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                  Sadly, I agree. This forum has been clogged up with Hatton/Mayweather threads for months and the better fight between Mosley and Cotto has been overshadowed. People don't seem to understand that Mosley is a more exciting version of Mayweather and Cotto is a more exciting version of Hatton, this will result in a potential fight of the year. Don't you worry Addison, when the fight is over people will be talking and the forum will be full of threads like "Mosley owned Cotto", "Cotto has been exposed", "Mosley proved he is one of the all time greats", etc.
                  Good post, WLAD. I totally agree.

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                  • satori555
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                    #19
                    i wouldnt really call cotto mosley a fight more like mismatch of the year

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                      Now that you mention it, I really haven't heard any good argument for Cotto. All I ever hear is "Mosley is too old", "Cotto is a young lion", "Cotto is a God", "I have a man crush on Cotto", "Cotto is on the same level as Trinidad", "Cotto will easily KO Mosley", "I gave Cotto head last night". If I got a dime for every time I heard one of those quotes I would be a multi ****in millionaire.
                      Wlad, just look at your ball-licking name. Stfu.

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