Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

[THe TRiNiTY]

Your list regarding Tszyu is not complete. And, don't forget he dismantled Vernon Forrest in the amateur world championships. And did you see the Miguel Angel Gonzales fight? Just wondering.

In any event, you are entitled to your opinion. In mine there is no doubt at all.....prime Tszyu would have taken Floyd out back and dropped him.

AMs don't count. It's completely different. And What he did to Gonzalez is no worse than what Mayweather did to Manfredy.

[Wiley Hyena]

Now your bringing amateur fights into it and you think you know boxing ,,, dont forget Vince Phillips that was real , Mayweather has a better resume and is still unbeaten thats real too , Dec 8 will be another reality check for you .

Damn right Vince Phillips was real. And, Tszyu got off the canvas and made a come back, like all great champions do, and became the first undisputed LWW champion in 30 years. Is it any wonder that Tszyu is considered one of the top three Jr. welter's of modern times? We're talking the likes of Aaron Pryor. So, cut the ****.

December 8 will not be a reality check for me either way. I've always been objective about Floyd, the good and the bad. It's your problem that you cannot see the bad. That's the reality.

[Wiley Hyena]

AMs don't count. It's completely different. And What he did to Gonzalez is no worse than what Mayweather did to Manfredy.

What? Is that your rule? "AMs don't count"? I didn't know that was boxing canon. Of course "it counts". It would be better if it had been a pro fight, but everything "counts". The fact is that Tszyu blew Forrest out of the ring. I don't care if it was AMs or pros. It happened. And, it does mean something.

[THe TRiNiTY]

What? Is that your rule? "AMs don't count"? I didn't know that was boxing canon. Of course "it counts". It would be better if it had been a pro fight, but everything "counts". The fact is that Tszyu blew Forrest out of the ring. I don't care if it was AMs or pros. It happened. And, it does mean something.

It's not my rule, it's just that if ANYONE thinks that a pro fight is the same thing as an AM fight, you're crazy. That's like saying the minor leagues are the same as the majors.. They're not. It means nothing because in Kostya's two biggest fights, he is 1-1.. THAT MATTERS. Mayweather is undefeated in his major fights, and counting.

[THe TRiNiTY]

By the way, I point out the bad in Mayweather al the time.

For someone who's not a puncher, he's too still in the ring.

Doesn't jab enough for a boxer/pot-shotter.

Would be beaten by a GREAT strong jabber.

Lacks fluid combinations at the higher weight classes.

It just seems that Hatton doesn't have the tools to really expose any of those things. No huge jab. No real FLUID combos of his own, Combos but more of a smothering effect comes into play, that Mayweather blocks, wonderfully. And though Hatton does stalk, he has to trap you. it's hard for Mayweather to be trapped.

[Wiley Hyena]

It's not my rule, it's just that if ANYONE thinks that a pro fight is the same thing as an AM fight, you're crazy. That's like saying the minor leagues are the same as the majors.. They're not. It means nothing because in Kostya's two biggest fights, he is 1-1.. THAT MATTERS. Mayweather is undefeated in his major fights, and counting.

Well I disagree completely with the statement: Tszyu "is 1-1 in his two biggest fights." This seems like a totally biased statement.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Well if you're going to triangulate, at least do it right. It's a simple matter of logic sono. You forgot that Tszyu wiped Mitchell out twice (2 KOs).

So let's go with it, since you seem to think triangulation is a workable way:

Tszyu beat Forrest who beat Mosely who beat Oscar. Floyd barely beat an over the hill Oscar. Furthermore, does this mean Floyd beats Hatton? I don't think so....Hatton beat Tszyu. There you go.

Wiley, Can I please ask you a coupla questions:

1) If Ricky hatton and Oscar Delahoya had fought this past summer, how do you feel that fight would have gone? Hatton KO, Hatton decision? Oscar TKO? Oscar decision?

2) I noticed that you said that Tszyu was ranked one of the top three JWW's of the modern era. Do YOU believe that he was?

[THe TRiNiTY]

Well I disagree completely with the statement: Tszyu "is 1-1 in his two biggest fights." This seems like a totally biased statement.

Judah, Hatton.. if you want to count Mitchell, sure, otherwise.. what are his BIG fights.. He'd still be 3-1 in big fights, unless you can show me his other BIG fights.

[RodBarker]

What? Is that your rule? "AMs don't count"? I didn't know that was boxing canon. Of course "it counts". It would be better if it had been a pro fight, but everything "counts". The fact is that Tszyu blew Forrest out of the ring. I don't care if it was AMs or pros. It happened. And, it does mean something.

Off course it dont matter to you , because you dont know the difference ! just as you think time stands still quoting crap from near on a decade ago , you make all these ****** running and ducking comments and threads when the fact is your hero was taken to court by Phillips too get a rematch ,,, KT ran , ducked and hid away wanting no more of journeyman Phillips and it was the most blatant high profile ducking of a fighter that I can remember , how the *** can you call anyone a runner at the expense of trying to pump Kostyas tyres up .

KT was a good fighter and one of the better champs but in now way is he a great ! watch Hector Lopez and Vince Phillips and then watch him quit with Hatton ,,, get ****ed with all this Kostya is this and Kostya is that .

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Well I disagree completely with the statement: Tszyu "is 1-1 in his two biggest fights." This seems like a totally biased statement.

Wiley, Do you consider 2004 Sharmba as top comp? How 'bout a 24 year old Zab?