Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

[Wiley Hyena]

By the way, I point out the bad in Mayweather al the time.

For someone who's not a puncher, he's too still in the ring.

Doesn't jab enough for a boxer/pot-shotter.

Would be beaten by a GREAT strong jabber.

Lacks fluid combinations at the higher weight classes.

It just seems that Hatton doesn't have the tools to really expose any of those things. No huge jab. No real FLUID combos of his own, Combos but more of a smothering effect comes into play, that Mayweather blocks, wonderfully. And though Hatton does stalk, he has to trap you. it's hard for Mayweather to be trapped.

Fine. This is your opinion. You know, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Are you trying to convince me of something? You are willing to ignore at will the fact that Tszyu did beat Forrest, albeit in the amatuer world championships. You are willing to do this because you have taken it upon your shoulders to run Tszyu down. I don't have to defend his record. He's not HOF for nothing. He's one of the all time greats at 140.

If you don't like Tszyu, I don't really care.

[THe TRiNiTY]

The thing is, Hatton and Zab ARE his biggest fights, and he lost one of them. If you want to count a lesser fight, you also have to count the lesser fight, with Phillips, in which he lost.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Fine. This is your opinion. You know, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Are you trying to convince me of something? You are willing to ignore at will the fact that Tszyu did beat Forrest, albeit in the amatuer world championships. You are willing to do this because you have taken it upon your shoulders to run Tszyu down. I don't have to defend his record. He's not HOF for nothing. He's one of the all time greats at 140.

If you don't like Tszyu, I don't really care.

When did I run down Kostya Tszyu? I've actually made it an issue to say he IS Hall of Fame bound, in my mind and that I did consider him a great fighter. He was a great 140 pounder, regardless of his placement on that list of great 140 pounders, he ranks high. He just doesn't beat Mayweather, to me.

[Wiley Hyena]

Wiley, Can I please ask you a coupla questions:

1) If Ricky hatton and Oscar Delahoya had fought this past summer, how do you feel that fight would have gone? Hatton KO, Hatton decision? Oscar TKO? Oscar decision?

2) I noticed that you said that Tszyu was ranked one of the top three JWW's of the modern era. Do YOU believe that he was?

Thanks for the questions, Dios. We probably don't need a moratorium, but I'll keep it civil if you will. Ok, to answer your questions:
1. IMO Hatton has a reasonable probability of getting a TKO over Oscar if the fight happened this past summer.
2. Yes, I do believe what alot of other boxing commentators believe...Tszyu was one of the top 3 140s of modern times. I do agree with this.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Thanks for the questions, Dios. We probably don't need a moratorium, but I'll keep it civil if you will. Ok, to answer your questions:
1. IMO Hatton has a reasonable probability of getting a TKO over Oscar if the fight happened this past summer.
2. Yes, I do believe what alot of other boxing commentators believe...Tszyu was one of the top 3 140s of modern times. I do agree with this.

My opinions:

1) I'm not sure what you mean by "reasonable probability". But I see a 75% chance of Oscar winning that fight. And if you don't see hatton as a fairly certain winner, then it is probably safe to say that Oscar isn't "over the hill" as you asserted..

2) Aaron Pryor, Julio Cesar Chavez, Ricky Hatton. That's 3. Which of them are you kicking off the list to replace with Kostya Tszyu?

[joepal]

When did I run down Kostya Tszyu? I've actually made it an issue to say he IS Hall of Fame bound, in my mind and that I did consider him a great fighter. He was a great 140 pounder, regardless of his placement on that list of great 140 pounders, he ranks high. He just doesn't beat Mayweather, to me.

This goes without saying to Floyd nuthuggers.

[SkillspayBills]

My opinions:

1) I'm not sure what you mean by "reasonable probability". But I see a 75% chance of Oscar winning that fight. And if you don't see hatton as a fairly certain winner, then it is probably safe to say that Oscar isn't "over the hill" as you asserted..

2) Aaron Pryor, Julio Cesar Chavez, Ricky Hatton. That's 3. Which of them are you kicking off the list to replace with Kostya Tszyu?

Talk about boxing him into a corner...

[Wiley Hyena]

The thing is, Hatton and Zab ARE his biggest fights, and he lost one of them. If you want to count a lesser fight, you also have to count the lesser fight, with Phillips, in which he lost.

No, C, those are not his top two fights. You missed Tszyu's career, didn't you? It's ok if you did. You just sound like your basing your opinions on stats and what you've read after the fact. Am I correct?

Admittedly, the Judah fight was one of his biggest fights, because of the garlands received. Miguel Angel Gonzales was also a big fight. 2001 Sharmba Mitchell was hyped to the core because of the garlands at stake and Sharmba was very respected then.

But, Hatton was not one of his two biggest fights. First of all, Tszyu was almost 36 years old, but incredibly at the same time was expected to walk thru Hatton. The fight is big in retrospect because of the consequences and that it was Tszyu's retirement fight.

There were many great fights had in Tszyu's career. Check the record. Ben Tackie was a big fight. Rafael Ruelas was a big fight. If you'll check the record, Tszyu ended three or four undefeated streaks and those were all big fights.

[The Noose]

Floyd took a couple of flush power shots from Oscar and wasnt hurt at all. His chin is really being underrated by those who voted for Kostya to win by KO.

[sonofisis]

Judging from the poll, at least most of the resident boxingscene posters have some type of common sense..