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  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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    #181
    Originally posted by Azteca
    If you want to walk away feeling victorious, please by all means, place a feather in your cap.

    feel free to do so as well.

    I place the two of you (you and sonofsis) on the same level along with a handful of others on this site.

    Trolls, mentally challenged, learning disabilities or simply uninformed, I just don't care to converse at this level anymore. Especially with post such as yourself.

    Does that sound eliteist or arrogant? Well if it has you feeling that YOU would rather not converse with ME anymore, then if that does the trick....Halllelujah!

    Comment on what ever post you want to. Please just don't direct anything to me. NO ONE else wants to read this bull****.

    So run along with your head held high in victory. You've "won".

    Congratulations.
    Teca,

    what are you talking about? I didn't even know that I was talking to you.

    In order for you to be elitist, you would have to at least know how to spell it. No offense.

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #182
      Broadband problems here...

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        #183
        Originally posted by Azteca
        Frankie Randall beat prime Chavez, but Tszyu can't?

        You forgot about that fight didn't you.

        Typical from know-nothings like yourself.
        I'm a know-nothing? IN what way? Frankie Randall beat Chavez at the TAIL END of his prime, and Chavez avenged the loss, regardless. See, I do know something.

        On a side note, 3 out of your 5 fights that you have picked, we both predict the same fighters. So, if I'm a know-nothing.......

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          #184
          Wiley,

          You seem to have Kostya in much higher esteem than MOST other people.

          Most people don't

          - have him as a super-elite JWW
          - have him as an ATG - top 80
          - have him beating PBF in a mythical matchup (nsb)
          - believe that PBF avoided him (nsb)

          Kostya Tszyu moved up the p4p rankings on the basis of some wins that I think , retrospectively, experts wouldn't rate as highly.

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          • Steak
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            #185
            Originally posted by Azteca
            Frankie Randall beat prime Chavez, but Tszyu can't?

            You forgot about that fight didn't you.

            Typical from know-nothings like yourself.
            Prime Chavez?! No way, man...Chavez was probebly best at lightweight, which was years before the Randall fight. and Chavez had tons and tons of fights, he did not have an easy career. not to mention he did nothing in training BUT spar. he used to spar 10 rounds a day I believe, 6 days a week. if that doesnt wear you down over your career, nothing will. when you go through that kind of punishment throughout a career, you can age overnight. just look at Morales...hes not that old in years, but he aged so fast after the 3rd Barrera fight and 1st Pacquiao fight...

            not to mention that the Randall that Chavez fought was a pretty outstanding fighter. He went downhill badly in his career, but shortly after the Chavez fight he went on to beat a GREAT fighter in Coggi winning 2-1 in a trilogy, and from what Ive heard, the Randall-Coggi fight was a full out brawl.

            To beat a prime Chavez, you need to be extremely active. Kostya was great with timing his punches, but Chavez could take shots unbelievably. Youre not going to change a fight with a few big punches against Chavez. Kostya also did not use a lot of movement, and if you just stand there, sooner or later Chavez will wear you down.
            Not a high volume puncer+not incredibly fast+not a ton of ring movement vs Chavez=a Chavez win, imo.

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            • Azteca
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              #186
              Originally posted by blackirish137
              Prime Chavez?! No way, man...Chavez was probebly best at lightweight, which was years before the Randall fight. and Chavez had tons and tons of fights, he did not have an easy career. not to mention he did nothing in training BUT spar. he used to spar 10 rounds a day I believe, 6 days a week. if that doesnt wear you down over your career, nothing will. when you go through that kind of punishment throughout a career, you can age overnight. just look at Morales...hes not that old in years, but he aged so fast after the 3rd Barrera fight and 1st Pacquiao fight...

              not to mention that the Randall that Chavez fought was a pretty outstanding fighter. He went downhill badly in his career, but shortly after the Chavez fight he went on to beat a GREAT fighter in Coggi winning 2-1 in a trilogy, and from what Ive heard, the Randall-Coggi fight was a full out brawl.

              To beat a prime Chavez, you need to be extremely active. Kostya was great with timing his punches, but Chavez could take shots unbelievably. Youre not going to change a fight with a few big punches against Chavez. Kostya also did not use a lot of movement, and if you just stand there, sooner or later Chavez will wear you down.
              Not a high volume puncer+not incredibly fast+not a ton of ring movement vs Chavez=a Chavez win, imo.
              ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. i respect your opinion but i have to laugh at some of these points. i know i am coming off arrogant here....but...

              ha ha ha ha ha.

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                #187
                Originally posted by Azteca
                Frankie Randall beat prime Chavez, but Tszyu can't?

                You forgot about that fight didn't you.

                Typical from know-nothings like yourself.
                So, you must rate Pea VERY highly

                Do you?

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                  So, you must rate Pea VERY highly

                  Do you?
                  Oh hell yes. For my money he is the 2nd best LW of all time (I dont rate Gans, Leonard all of them because of limited footage). I'm basing my opinion on actually having seen him fight and such.

                  And he's a top 10 welt. Maybe...I'd have to think about it but he has ATG skills and would be on top in any era.

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                  • Azteca
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    So, you must rate Pea VERY highly

                    Do you?
                    By the way, not sure what you're getting at. I look forward to it though. I'm sure you got some smart-assed response.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Azteca
                      ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. i respect your opinion but i have to laugh at some of these points. i know i am coming off arrogant here....but...

                      ha ha ha ha ha.
                      care to explain?

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