Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

[wmute]

Tszyu not only beats Floyd, he knocks him out.

I type a sensible analysis, and you answer with a one liner with no content.

How is it that I am not surprised?

[Wiley Hyena]

1) You are displaying a lack of understanding of the term "p4p". Two guys fighting each other at the same weight does not evoke a p4p discussion.

2) Floyd didn't "barely win" the second fight. Floyd won the second fight convincingly. Castillo has said that. And I can whip out a handy-dandy JLC quote if you need it.

3) You will find plenty of people who will say that Floyd won the first fight. Including, umm, the three ringside judges. You will not find anybody to say that Castillo won the second fight. So your "weighing" methodology woukld say that Floyd was the better fighter in those fights.

Clear and concise. With no sissyfied insults. See how that works?

Well you are entitled to your opinion. But, it is the opinion of many, including myself that Castillo won that first fight rather handily. Even Lederman had him winning by 5 rounds if I remember correctly. So.....Dios, there it is.

[wmute]

damn I forgot Barney Ross

[Wiley Hyena]

I type a sensible analysis, and you answer with a one liner with no content.

How is it that I am not surprised?

I've analysed this many times, but you are unable to take it in. So I won't waste time with you. Just set you straight.

[Wiley Hyena]

Dios. Are you going to answer my question now?? Who's the top 3 Jr. WWs of the last 30 years?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Well, Dios, I answered your question but then you change the question and say I didn't answer it. But, all the time you are refusing to answer my question, so I'll ask it one more time:

Who do you believe are the 3 greatest Jr. WWs of the past 30 years?

The three best 140ers "of modern times", in my opinion:

Julio Cesar Chavez
Aaron Pryor
Wilfredo Benitez (even w his lesser history)

Ricky Hatton, Kostya Tszyu, etc are on that next notch below....


And I have a slew of other guys who passed through the weight that I can rank on ability, but they didn't do enough work there to establish a legacy at that weight. I'll throw out some names: Roberto Duran, Pernell Whitaker, Shane Mosley (0 fights), Meldrick Taylor, Buddy McGirt, etc.

[Azteca]

Styles make fights, and Zoo does not have much of a chance against Mayweather.

He is not a high-volume puncher and he is slow, which means he would have to rely on landing the big one flush. Unfortunately landing the big one on one of the best defensive fighters and one of the smartest fighters out there is not exactly easy.

It so happens that Zoo money punch is a straight right hand. It also happens that shoulder rolls work wonders on straight right hands (in terms of leaving who throws the right hand more off balance than picking, parrying, slipping, and so on... and also in leaving you ready to shoot well leveraged right hands).

PBF wins a wide and boring (as he should given Zoo's right hand) decision

There's two ways you beat enigma's like Leonard/Pea/Floyd etc.

Pressure them and break them. Fighter's like the ones I named above need space to land punches. If you are on them all night and smothering them they tend to go defensive. This is true with ALL offensive fighters in the same ilk as above.Ie. Curry/Honeyghan, Duran - Leonard 1 etc.

OR

If you have similiar or better physical tools, jab them to death. The simple jab jab right hand works on these guys. Clinch them when they try to fight from mid range. Ala Hearns - Leonard 1.

It just so happens Tszyu can do both. He can swarm except he is patient. Tszyu would be looking to pressure and outbox Mayweather. Mayweather would be forced to increase his punch output. Only problem is, that's not his natural tempermant. He is not a ****er against guys like Tszyu. A guy who is almost as dirty as Hatton. A guy who wrestles, steps on your feet and hits you with the cuff of your glove.

Tszyu would work him, IMO. Styles make fights.

[Wiley Hyena]

The three best 140ers "of modern times", in my opinion:

Julio Cesar Chavez
Aaron Pryor
Wilfredo Benitez (even w his lesser history)

Ricky Hatton, Kostya Tszyu, etc are on that next notch below....


And I have a slew of other guys who passed through the weight that I can rank on ability, but they didn't do enough work there to establish a legacy at that weight. I'll throw out some names: Roberto Duran, Pernell Whitaker, Shane Mosley (0 fights), Meldrick Taylor, Buddy McGirt, etc.

Fair enough......but I've got Tszyu in top 3. Benitez moved to WW in 77. So he's out.

[wmute]

I've analysed this many times, but you are unable to take it in. So I won't waste time with you. Just set you straight.

I never got a chance to read your "analysis".

Please enlighten me on how the slow stand up boxer, who likes to stay at a range, and throw a carefully chosen, but small, number of shots is going to beat Mayweather?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Dios. Are you going to answer my question now?? Who's the top 3 Jr. WWs of the last 30 years?

I'm answering your question. I don't disappear or fire back a bunch of questions (hint, hint) when somebody asks me a direct question.