Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Well it is because it is a deceptive question. I think its interesting that you place Hatton in top 3 best 140 of the "modern generation." What do you mean by that? Is that the same generation as JCC or Pryor?

Wiley,

You said that Kostya Tszyu was one of the three best (and I quote) "of the modern times". There can be no dispute that these guys fought in the modern times.

Please answer the question. Or juast tell me to **** off, and I'll leave it alone. There's no deception there.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Well it is because it is a deceptive question. I think its interesting that you place Hatton in top 3 best 140 of the "modern generation." What do you mean by that? Is that the same generation as JCC or Pryor?

It's not really a deceptive question. He's giving you a list, you're making a choice.

Second of all, as far as the IBHOF is concerned, if Hatton retired today and never fought for the next 5 years, he'd be inducted into the Modern Era, the same category as Pryor and Chavez. If he were inducted, I mean.

Also, I see you handling yourself, very well. You make decent points. No "internet ownage" going on, at all.

[joepal]

I make a distinction because they are two different fights. Hence the reason they fought twice, got paid twice, had two seperate crowds. You know.. TWO DIFFERENT FIGHTS. One should have went to Castillo, the second fight went to who it should have, in my opinion. Not biased, just my opinion.

Didnt you just say the second was the more important fight?

There goes your pretense of objectivity.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Thanks for the questions, Dios. We probably don't need a moratorium, but I'll keep it civil if you will. Ok, to answer your questions:
1. IMO Hatton has a reasonable probability of getting a TKO over Oscar if the fight happened this past summer.
2. Yes, I do believe what alot of other boxing commentators believe...Tszyu was one of the top 3 140s of modern times. I do agree with this.

Did I misunderstand something there? English is still relatively new to me.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Didnt you just say the second was the more important fight?

There goes your pretense of objectivity.

In the long run, the last fight in any series of fights is the most important. It tells you where the two fighters were at in their careers when they last met. I think, personally, Corrales was a better fighter than Castillo, but the last fight was the more telling fight. Castillo had a bit more to go with (not much, but some), Corrales didn't have much else after that fight.

[joepal]

In the long run, the last fight in any series of fights is the most important. It tells you where the two fighters were at in their careers when they last met. I think, personally, Corrales was a better fighter than Castillo, but the last fight was the more telling fight. Castillo had a bit more to go with (not much, but some), Corrales didn't have much else after that fight.

Castillo won handily in one, Floyd barely won the other. The obvious conclusion here is that Castillo was p4p the better fighter in two fights.

Quit the nuthugging man.

[Wiley Hyena]

It's not really a deceptive question. He's giving you a list, you're making a choice.

Second of all, as far as the IBHOF is concerned, if Hatton retired today and never fought for the next 5 years, he'd be inducted into the Modern Era, the same category as Pryor and Chavez. If he were inducted, I mean.

Also, I see you handling yourself, very well. You make decent points. No "internet ownage" going on, at all.

No. He said who does Tszyu knock out of the list? We're not talking about a great of the generation. Hatton is in that. We're really talking about top 3 of the last 30 years. In this regard, Tszyu has to be in the top echelon because of historical achievement...ie...first to consolidate the belts in 30 years. Aaron Pryor is there too. Chavez is also an ATG Jr. WW.

Hatton is not at that level....time will tell though. IF he does beat Floyd, he can start to make these claims. But, not yet. Ok? There's my answer.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

No. He said who does Tszyu knock out of the list? We're not talking about a great of the generation. Hatton is in that. We're really talking about top 3 of the last 30 years. In this regard, Tszyu has to be in the top echelon because of historical achievement...ie...first to consolidate the belts in 30 years. Aaron Pryor is there too. Chavez is also an ATG Jr. WW.

Hatton is not at that level....time will tell though. IF he does beat Floyd, he can start to make these claims. But, not yet. Ok? There's my answer.

OK,

Are you saying that Kostya Tszyu is better than Ricky Hatton?


You are not answering the question. You are dancing around it. I can't believe that I'm on my sixth (and final, if unanswered) post to a VERY simple question.

Who are the three best JWW's of modern times?

Here are some choices:
1) Julio Cesar Chavez
2) AAron Pryor
3) Ricky Hatton
4) Kostya Tszyu
5) Meldrick Taylor
6) Wilfredo Benitez

Who has more "historical achievement" Kostya Tszyu... or Wilfredo Benitez?

[THe TRiNiTY]

Castillo won handily in one, Floyd barely won the other. The obvious conclusion here is that Castillo was p4p the better fighter in two fights.

Quit the nuthugging man.

I had them both winning their fights at about the same rate. 7-5 rounds. It's an opinion. Not a fact. Grow up and quit making claims. No nuthugging. HONEST OPINION.

[Wiley Hyena]

OK,

Are you saying that Kostya Tszyu is better than Ricky Hatton?


You are not answering the question. You are dancing around it. I can't believe that I'm on my sixth (and final, if unanswered) post to a VERY simple question.

Who are the three best JWW's of modern times?

Here are some choices:
1) Julio Cesar Chavez
2) AAron Pryor
3) Ricky Hatton
4) Kostya Tszyu
5) Meldrick Taylor
6) Wilfredo Benitez

Who has more "historical achievement" Kostya Tszyu... or Wilfredo Benitez?

I answered your damn question. You asked me who does Tszyu knock out of your list of JCC, A. Pryor, Hatton. I just said Tszyu knocks Hatton out.

Now you tell me who are the top three LWWs of modern times? I answered your little question, now it's time for you to answer mine.