Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

[THe TRiNiTY]

You know what I meant ya tit.

The three best JWW:
Pryor
Chavez
Benitez
Tszyu

But why does that really matter?

Huh???????

[joepal]

Yeah.., that's exactly right. The p4p rankings bear that out.

I said in the two fights. Jeebus, your man-love is already blinding you!

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

He doesn't have any point, except to distinguish Hatton out. Well, how does the great Floyd Mayweather, Jr. fit in there? Not very good, I wager.

Wiley,

We agreed to have a rational discussion. A boxing discussion. If you feel challenged, you need to think on why that would be. I certainly haven't insulted you.

You made a statement: Kostya Tszyu was one of the three best Jww's of modern times.

Ok. Fine. I named you two ATG's at the weight, and another veteran who beat Tszyu heads-up. Is that not a legitimate point of discussion??

Or should your boxing opinions go uncontested?

FMJ has 2 or 3 fights at the weight. Why is his name even brought up?

[Wiley Hyena]

Wiley,

We agreed to have a rational discussion. A boxing discussion. If you feel challenged, you need to think on why that would be. I certainly haven't insulted you.

You made a statement: Kostya Tszyu was one of the three best Jww's of modern times.

Ok. Fine. I named you two ATG's at the weight, and another veteran who beat Tszyu heads-up. Is that not a legitimate point of discussion??

Or should your boxing opinions go uncontested?

FMJ has 2 or 3 fights at the weight. Why is his name even brought up?

Well, Dios, I answered your question but then you change the question and say I didn't answer it. But, all the time you are refusing to answer my question, so I'll ask it one more time:

Who do you believe are the 3 greatest Jr. WWs of the past 30 years?

[joepal]

I had them both winning their fights at about the same rate. 7-5 rounds. It's an opinion. Not a fact. Grow up and quit making claims. No nuthugging. HONEST OPINION.

Mmmkay. Floyd beat JLC in the rematch just as well as JLC beat Floyd in the first.

Frigging nuthugger.

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Styles make fights, and Zoo does not have much of a chance against Mayweather.

He is not a high-volume puncher and he is slow, which means he would have to rely on landing the big one flush. Unfortunately landing the big one on one of the best defensive fighters and one of the smartest fighters out there is not exactly easy.

It so happens that Zoo money punch is a straight right hand. It also happens that shoulder rolls work wonders on straight right hands (in terms of leaving who throws the right hand more off balance than picking, parrying, slipping, and so on... and also in leaving you ready to shoot well leveraged right hands).

PBF wins a wide and boring (as he should given Zoo's right hand) decision

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Castillo won handily in one, Floyd barely won the other. The obvious conclusion here is that Castillo was p4p the better fighter in two fights.

Quit the nuthugging man.

1) You are displaying a lack of understanding of the term "p4p". Two guys fighting each other at the same weight does not evoke a p4p discussion.

2) Floyd didn't "barely win" the second fight. Floyd won the second fight convincingly. Castillo has said that. And I can whip out a handy-dandy JLC quote if you need it.

3) You will find plenty of people who will say that Floyd won the first fight. Including, umm, the three ringside judges. You will not find anybody to say that Castillo won the second fight. So your "weighing" methodology woukld say that Floyd was the better fighter in those fights.

Clear and concise. With no sissyfied insults. See how that works?

[Wiley Hyena]

Styles make fights, and Zoo does not have much of a chance against Mayweather.

He is not a high-volume puncher and he is slow, which means he would have to rely on landing the big one flush. Unfortunately landing the big one on one of the best defensive fighters and one of the smartest fighters out there is not exactly easy.

It so happens that Zoo money punch is a straight right hand. It also happens that shoulder rolls work wonders on straight right hands (in terms of leaving who throws the right hand more off balance than picking, parrying, slipping, and so on... and also in leaving you ready to shoot well leveraged right hands).

PBF wins a wide and boring (as he should given Zoo's right hand) decision

Tszyu not only beats Floyd, he knocks him out.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Mmmkay. Floyd beat JLC in the rematch just as well as JLC beat Floyd in the first.

Frigging nuthugger.

Do you have any proof to the contrary? I've seen both fights. People judge fights differently. I could see someone saying they saw Mayweather OR Castillo winning both. It's what you're looking for in the fights. Fact is, at the end of the day, NOW I'd pick Mayweather over Castillo, at pretty much any weight. Which goes to show, that the second fight, that even you admit, Mayweather won, tells more of a story as to where they are in boxing at that point. At that point, Mayweather was a bit better. Pretty simple logic.

Case and point, if Mayweather LOST, and then he came back and had the same fight in the rematch and won.. he'd be about where he is in the game, anyway. Because nothing else would have changed, since a lot people think Castillo won anyway. Unless you think the 0 in Mayweathers record is the source of his powers. lol.

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In the list of great 140 fighters, one should include Nicolino Locche and Duilio Loi.