Mayweather's plan at 140

[Fox McCloud]

What's with the PPV bull****? You think by fighting Gatti instead of Tszyu his PPV status was raised? Wrong. A Tszyu-Mayweather fight back then would have been a blockbuster. But, evidently, being the marketing major that you seem to be, you've come onto a novel theory. Washed up Arturo Gatti was a bigger fight than Floyd actually fighting one of the greatest 140s of all time!

No genius, I am saying that the show he put on against Gatti could not be rivaled by any other fight.

Taylor-Hopkins was the best fight that could have been made in the division (except for Hopkins-Wright maybe). Tell me how exciting those fights were?

The fact that he crushed a very popular fighter means he got his name out to the PPV audience and put some money in the bank (metaphorically speaking) for future PPV buyers.

There is no way the Mayweather-Tszyu fight would have been nearly that exciting or nearly as promising for Floyd's future prospects. I'm sorry, it just wouldn't have.

[Wiley Hyena]

Mayweather did not duck Tszyu because he did not force a mandatory situation. That is completely ridiculous.

Would Mayweather have ducked Gatti had he not fought against Henry Bruseles in a WBC final eliminator? What a joke.

Mayweather still says a fight with Tszyu would have been good too.

Bull**** argument. Floyd signed to fight Gatti well before Tszyu lost the championship to Hatton. I've told you this before, but you go on and just ignore another significant fact. Why?

[Ray Ray]

Please Cut The Bull**** Out. You Are The Only One Screaming This Utterly Wrong ****

This is complete and utter BS. This is the kind of thing that discredits the valid points you have to say about Floyd.

If Floyd ever wanted Tszyu's belts, he would have had his chance. Hell, he could forced Tszyu to fight a mandatory or be stripped. Floyd never did either. Tszyu never ran from division to division fighting bums. He stayed right there. Floyd is the one who ran. No question.

There's an article on the net right now, where even now, EVEN NOW, 38 years old and in retirement, Tszyu says a fight with Mayweather would be great. Google Kostya Tszyu and find it yourself.

JESUS. Wiley will get over this Floyd ducked Tszyu bull****. You are the one spewing this bull**** so you should find. If there is an article and it specificly say "FLOYD DUCKED TSZYU" I will apoligize until then just STFU and quit lying to yourself.

[Pac_attack]

Fact: In 2003, 2004, and 2005, Tszyu held all the belts at 140.

Fact: Tszyu is HOF because he was the first man in 30 years to unify the belts at 140.

Fact: Tszyu was the dominant force in the Jr. WW (140) from the early 90s.

Fact: Floyd moved up to 140 in 2004, fought a couple of bums there, and quickly moved up.

Fact: Floyd then says he wanted Tszyu the whole time.

Fact: Floyd never fought for the 140 championship as long as Tszyu held the belts.

Fact: Regardless of who said what, Floyd could've forced Tszyu to put his belts on the line or be stripped, by way of mandatory challenge, had he stayed at 140.

Fact: Contrary to what some Floyd apologists say around here, there was no "long layoff" regarding Tszyu during Mayweather's time in and around 140. Tszyu fought in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. In fact, he was top ten p4p in all those years.

No more details necessary. No excuses are sufficient. Floyd dodged Tszyu.

Is it any coincidence that Floyd is now coming back down in weight? Now that Tszyu is retired, it's no surprise to me.

I though Chavez had unified titles at 140.

[Wiley Hyena]

No genius, I am saying that the show he put on against Gatti could not be rivaled by any other fight.

Taylor-Hopkins was the best fight that could have been made in the division (except for Hopkins-Wright maybe). Tell me how exciting those fights were?

The fact that he crushed a very popular fighter means he got his name out to the PPV audience and put some money in the bank (metaphorically speaking) for future PPV buyers.

There is no way the Mayweather-Tszyu fight would have been nearly that exciting or nearly as promising for Floyd's future prospects. I'm sorry, it just wouldn't have.

Goddam, if Floyd really thought he could beat Tszyu, then why wouldn't that have been promising for his career? You see, that's the issue.

And, to say that Gatti-Floyd was bigger than Tszyu-Floyd is just nonsense. You're just being stubborn.

[Wiley Hyena]

JESUS. Wiley will get over this Floyd ducked Tszyu bull****. You are the one spewing this bull**** so you should find. If there is an article and it specificly say "FLOYD DUCKED TSZYU" I will apoligize until then just STFU and quit lying to yourself.

IN case you didn't notice, I didn't start this thread, I'm responding to it.

[Fox McCloud]

Bull**** argument. Floyd signed to fight Gatti well before Tszyu lost the championship to Hatton. I've told you this before, but you go on and just ignore another significant fact. Why?

Did he sign the Gatti fight well before Tszyu signed his fight with Hatton... you keep saying that Gatti was signed before Tszyu fought... well no ****ing ****. When they both sign the deal is what is important here... and my guess is you aren't going to be able to prove any of this to me with any external source, keeping your consistency on this thread.

[Wiley Hyena]

I though Chavez had unified titles at 140.

NO...............not at least for 30 years.

[Wiley Hyena]

Did he sign the Gatti fight well before Tszyu signed his fight with Hatton... you keep saying that Gatti was signed before Tszyu fought... well no ****ing ****. When they both sign the deal is what is important here... and my guess is you aren't going to be able to prove any of this to me with any external source, keeping your consistency on this thread.

Your stubborness is leading you into lala land. I cannot argue with nonsense D. If you don't want to listen to me, I understand. Please refer to Larry Merchant for his opinion, which he publicly stated, about Floyd and Kostya Tszyu.

[wmute]

My friend, the Hatton-Tszyu fight occurred one month before the Floyd-Gatti fight. Floyd-Gatti was signed well before the Hatton-Tszyu fight occurred.

and when was Hatton-Zoo signed?