Mayweather's plan at 140

[brently1979]

I agree with DWiens, Mayweather didn't duck Kostya and neither did DLH. I'm sick of people saying these guys ducked Kostya, it wasn't their fault he lost just before they where scheduled to meet.

[Wiley Hyena]

This is the part out of the bull**** you spew that gets to me the most. When have you seen Floyd do something as underhanded as that than to FORCE someone to fight him and all that crap.

Tszyu wasn't champion, Floyd fough two WBC eliminators. Tszyu lost to Hatton the fight could not be amde anymore. Coyote, your name fits you so well.

Tszyu was champion until he lost to Hatton in 2005. By then Floyd had already moved up and out of 140.

Floyd moved up to 140, fought two bums, and hauled ass out of there. You cannot avoid the facts. I won't state them again.

[Wiley Hyena]

I agree with DWiens, Mayweather didn't duck Kostya and neither did DLH. I'm sick of people saying these guys ducked Kostya, it wasn't their fault he lost just before they where scheduled to meet.

Yeah. Sure. He lost at age 36. What about the ten years before?

You Mayweatherites will look at anything, but the evidence right before your very eyes. Y'all have alot of credible arguments to make to support your boy, but Tszyu is not one of them. When you make posts like you have here, your credibility goes right down the tube.

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Tszyu was champion until he lost to Hatton in 2005. By then Floyd had already moved up and out of 140.

Floyd moved up to 140, fought two bums, and hauled ass out of there. You cannot avoid the facts. I won't state them again.

Bull****

Floyd fought Gatti after Ricky fought Zoo.

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Yeah. Sure. He lost at age 36. What about the ten years before?

You Mayweatherites will look at anything, but the evidence right before your very eyes. Y'all have alot of credible arguments to make to support your boy, but Tszyu is not one of them. When you make posts like you have here, your credibility goes right down the tube.

Mayweather moved up to 140 in 2004, and he fought ONCE in 2004.

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Fact: In 2003, 2004, and 2005, Tszyu held all the belts at 140.

Bull****.

Zoo was stripped by WBC and WBA in 2003 for inactivity.

Fact: Tszyu is HOF because he was the first man in 30 years to unify the belts at 140.

I agree Tszyu is HOF... so? what does that have to do with anyone ducking him?
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Fact: Tszyu was the dominant force in the Jr. WW (140) from the early 90s.

I agree... so? If you are talking about Mayweather ducking him in the early 90s, I will inform you that Mayweather was fighting Golden Gloves at FLYWEIGHT at the times
IRRELEVANT

Fact: Floyd moved up to 140 in 2004, fought a couple of bums there, and quickly moved up.

I agree

Fact: Floyd then says he wanted Tszyu the whole time.

I agree, and how does that indicate that he was ducking him?
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Fact: Floyd never fought for the 140 championship as long as Tszyu held the belts.

He did not fight at 140 at all when Zoo was holding those belts (he lost WBA and WBC for inactivity in 2003). He was a lightweight until he fought Corley in 2004.
IRRELEVANT

Fact: Regardless of who said what, Floyd could've forced Tszyu to put his belts on the line or be stripped, by way of mandatory challenge, had he stayed at 140.

Bull****.
Floyd was mandatory for WBC, 2 years after Zoo was stripped from that belt

Note how you go from "dodged Zoo" to "could have forced Zoo to fight"

Fact: Contrary to what some Floyd apologists say around here, there was no "long layoff" regarding Tszyu during Mayweather's time in and around 140. Tszyu fought in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. In fact, he was top ten p4p in all those years.

Bull****.

20 months is a very long layoff.

(Zoo fought once a year from 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005.)

No more details necessary. No excuses are sufficient. Floyd dodged Tszyu.

Considering your facts turn out to be bull**** or irrelevant to your thesis anyone dodging zoo, you might want to go to bed.

Is it any coincidence that Floyd is now coming back down in weight? Now that Tszyu is retired, it's no surprise to me.

Mayweather's next fight is scheduled at 147. A weight class Zoo never dared to enter.

[Fox McCloud]

Bull****

Floyd fought Gatti after Ricky fought Zoo.

Truth... and still there is no credible evidence that Floyd is at fault for this.

Question: Did Evander Holyfield duck Mike Tyson in 1990?

Well, he didn't fight him, even though Tyson was the unified champion.

The fact is, Tyson lost to Buster Douglas, meaning Tyson-Holyfield had very little to offer for Evander. Why the **** would he fight him?

The fact that the champion lost a fight he was supposed to win does not place the blame of ducking on the challenger, in any instance.

Floyd didn't fight Tszyu because Tszyu lost to Hatton. That's all there is too it. No one has even remotely tried to attack my logic about Floyd wanting to become a PPV star (which means he could bank more money for the Tszyu fight).

I like you a lot Wiley, but I really don't know why you stick to your argument so hard in this instance even though you have no credible proof, nor any convincing argument that disproves the "waiting until he was a PPV star theory".

[brently1979]

Regardless Mayweather at 140 would have out boxed Tszyu.

[Fox McCloud]

Poll added, vote away.

[Cletus Funk]

Floyd was chasing Hatton in 2004, a relatively unproven prospect at that point, instead of going for the main man in the division. He only ever mentioned KT's name in passing, thrown in with about 10 other guys that he said he might like to fight. He never called him out specifically and this plan of his that has been mentioned is pure fiction.