Who has the better legacy, Pacquiao or Mayweather?

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  • Bogler
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    #121
    Originally posted by sonofisis
    Obviously YOU don't know anything if this is your only response, that you depend on every single time it seems. This is appealing to ad hominem and won't help you or Pac's legacy and only makes you look foolish and childish. Learn how to rebut point for point..
    you didnt try to quote or read my whole post, however short it is. i replied to him w/ regards only to his bolded caps statement. PAC offered JMM an immediate rematch and JMM's camp turned it down and went off to indonesia to lose in a $30K match. so OBVIOUSLY, its you who has some reading comprehension problems.

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    • Super_Lightweight
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      #122
      There are a lot of silly little Mayweather fanboys on here. It really gets sad how personal they take things and try to discredit Pac. Pac destroyed legends...period. He is a great fighter with his own style that works for HIM. Doesn't matter if you like it or not. Lately, Pacquiao has a better resume and more impressive wins than Floyd.

      That said, over the long haul, Floyd has the better fighters in total on his ledger.

      Jesus Chavez, Genaro Hernandez, Oscar De La Hoya, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Carlos Hernandez, Diego Corrales, and maybe Angel Manfredy.

      Pac has: Erik Morales, M. Barrera, Oscar Larios, Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, Emmanuel Lucero, and Fahsan 3K Battery.

      Pac by virtue of facing Morales and MAB multiple times is close to Mayweather, but Floyd is definitely ahead right now.

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      • tredh
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        #123
        Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
        There are a lot of silly little Mayweather fanboys on here. It really gets sad how personal they take things and try to discredit Pac. Pac destroyed legends...period. He is a great fighter with his own style that works for HIM. Doesn't matter if you like it or not. Lately, Pacquiao has a better resume and more impressive wins than Floyd.

        That said, over the long haul, Floyd has the better fighters in total on his ledger.

        Jesus Chavez, Genaro Hernandez, Oscar De La Hoya, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Carlos Hernandez, Diego Corrales, and maybe Angel Manfredy.

        Pac has: Erik Morales, M. Barrera, Oscar Larios, Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, Emmanuel Lucero, and Fahsan 3K Battery.

        Pac by virtue of facing Morales and MAB multiple times is close to Mayweather, but Floyd is definitely ahead right now.
        Couldn't the same things be said about the PAC fans trying to discredit PBF? What I don't think some people realize is that there are ways to debate fighters without tearing them down.

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          #124
          Originally posted by tredh
          Couldn't the same things be said about the PAC fans trying to discredit PBF? What I don't think some people realize is that there are ways to debate fighters without tearing them down.
          Yeah I was just thinking that. That definitely goes on as well. But Floyd fans already have Floyd p4p number 1 as do many writers and think that Pac has no case at all, which is silly and dismissive.

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            #125
            Originally posted by tredh
            Nothing was in doubt about that De la Hoya fight that is bull****. Only thing about that fight which could be questioned(which I don't personally agree with) is margin of the scores but PBF clearly won that fight. What was questionable about the rematch between PBF and Castillo? It is so convient for you PBF haters to leave out the rematch. That **** is sad. Just for the sake of arguement and to be biased like so many of you here.
            AT LEAST PBF GAVE CASTILLO A IMMEDIATE REMATCH MANNY DIDN'T GIVE MARQUEZ A IMMEDIATE REMATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            tsk tsk... Marquez was given an immediate rematch... He priced himself out... Just a reminder...

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            • Dirt E Gomez
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              #126
              Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
              Yeah I was just thinking that. That definitely goes on as well. But Floyd fans already have Floyd p4p number 1 as do many writers and think that Pac has no case at all, which is silly and dismissive.
              It's not silly or dismissive... it's simply being logical. Nobody is saying Pac is a bum or doesn't belong near the top of the p4p lists.... but you wont find many people who think he should be #1. He simply isn't. There's no shame in being #2 to one of the best boxers of the last 20 years.

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                #127
                It's not silly or dismissive... it's simply being logical.
                It's not logical at all. It is silly. It absolutely is dismissive. To dismiss the idea without even giving it thought (the idea of Pac being number 1) it the very definition of being dismissive. Pac has a good track record lately and it is not crazy or out in left field to suggest that he is p4p number 1 by a slight margin. It's arrogant to dismiss people so abruptly who make that case.

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                • Dirt E Gomez
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                  It's not logical at all. It is silly. It absolutely is dismissive. To dismiss the idea without even giving it thought (the idea of Pac being number 1) it the very definition of being dismissive. Pac has a good track record lately and it is not crazy or out in left field to suggest that he is p4p number 1 by a slight margin. It's arrogant to dismiss people so abruptly who make that case.
                  Giving it thought and spending hours mulling over it are 2 different things. I wouldn't spend hours repeating a basic math equation to make sure I got the correct answer.

                  It's not insulting, dismissive, or arrogant. It is merely somebody's understanding of boxing and ability to notice the obvious. It shouldn't take somebody long to realize that Floyd is p4p #1.

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                    #129
                    It doesn't take me too long to make a case for Pac being number one. And the arrogant ones know who they are...they are not the type who think or consider anything. The ones who get angry and act like women when their god is challenged.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                      It doesn't take me too long to make a case for Pac being number one. And the arrogant ones know who they are...they are not the type who think or consider anything. The ones who get angry and act like women when their god is challenged.
                      What is the case?

                      OMG he fought MAB, Morales, and JMM!!!!!!!

                      They looked really good coming off of losses to fight him. People love to make fun of Floyd for some of his fights... MAB and Morales weren't what they used to be; and might not've been that much to begin with.

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