The way to beat Pavlik!

[pesticid]

Pavlik hasn't faced anybody with quick laterals. Somebody who can go side to side on a dime, fire punches, and move to the next side. I don;t think there are any middleweights who do that except for Calzaghe and Bute. Kessler not so much. I am not saying they will beat him. But you can;t run and hide against Pavlik he's too long and his guard is too high so he is going to find you one way or the other.

[pesticid]

Anybody wants to bet against me against Kessler? Any takers?

[SkillspayBills]

Jermain should have blocked the jab with his hand instead of swaying, than he could focus on the right hand and his jab was getting through so he would have controlled Kelly.

[freedom213]

A big punch is an equalizer; but Kessler is both bigger and faster. And what good is a jab against a southpaw who is faster than you?

I'd give Pavlik a puncher's chance against Kessler, next to none against JC. Hopefully he'll knock out a Duddy or so, rematch Taylor then fight Kessler for supremacy at 168 (joe moving to LHW)

An example of a good hard jab working against a fast southpaw would be Cotto vs Judah. Cottos jab was a big factor in that fight so dont count that out. It will take a very very good fighter to beat Kelly Pavlik maybe Kessler, maybe but probably not Joe Calz and I defintely think anyone who employs the turtle Defense like Sturm, Wright, Arthur Abraham will not fair well. Pavlik hits hard enough to the body to make those guys elect to move instead of cover and he is capable of punching thru that Defense. Those guys will just have to outfight him. Its not impossible, nothings impossble but the problem with Pavlik is he's still young and getting better and smarter.

[kayjay]

An example of a good hard jab working against a fast southpaw would be Cotto vs Judah. Cottos jab was a big factor in that fight so dont count that out. It will take a very very good fighter to beat Kelly Pavlik maybe Kessler, maybe but probably not Joe Calz .

Joe Calzaghe though is no Zab Judah.

But good counterexample by you. Although recall how awkward Cotto looked at first getting his feet set right.

[freedom213]

Kessler wouldn't stand a chance in hell of beating Pavlik. You are not going to beat Pavlik without great head movment, or a chin like James Toney.

not true. Kessler is an all around great fighter. Great footwork, fast hands, good power, good jab, good right hand, good left hook, his only flaw would be not enough body work. He also seems to be able to take a good punch.

[freedom213]

Joe Calzaghe though is no Zab Judah.

But good counterexample by you. Although recall how awkward Cotto looked at first getting his feet set right.

no JC is no Zab, only one of that guy thank god but you see my point? against a southpaw that jab can control the direction of movement. South paw tries to move to the right away from the opponents power hand and **** left jab. More importantly tho a jab like Pavlik's break an opponents rhythm, breaks their spirit eventually and sets the punching distance.

[kayjay]

But Calzaghe is too crafty, too fast, and his chin is a rock. Pavlik would be overwhelmed. We're talking about a guy who can throw thirty punches unanswered. In fact that's exactly what would happen to Pavlik. He couldn't take a Taylor flurry, and Taylor is not the quick fluid puncher that Calzaghe is, doesn't throw in the volumes or with the split-second reaction time. Joe would make Pavlik look like a statue

[Thunder Lips]

Outside of the flurry that put him down in the 2nd when he dropped his hands, Pavlik actually blocked or deflected the majority of Taylor's punches. His defense is fine. Taylor couldn't avoid the right because he was getting out jabbed all night. And seriously, I'm sure if Taylor could avoid getting the **** beat out of him and do all these things...he probably would have.

I think Calzaghe could probably take a decision, too quick, busy and crafty for most anyone. It would be interesting fight if it happens.

[champion4ever]

The key in defeating Kelly Pavlik is to throw punches and getting off first. One must be able to constantly beat him to the punch. By doing this, you would hopefully offset his timing and accuracy from being off balance, because he is very slow and easy to hit.

Secondly, you must not back up and attempt to circle him. This could be a grave mistake, as evident by Taylor last night; Because he has a long reach, with a very good jab to go along with it, to set up his power punches. You must be able to neutralize his physical ability, by crowding him inside and smothering his punches. This way he would not get the full range and extension of his money punch the right hand.

Lastly and most importantly one have to land punches against him. One must hit him as early and often as possible, in hopes of tiring, fatiguing and weakening him in the later rounds to possibly knock him out .