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  • pesticid
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    #51
    UFC is gaining popularity because they go to the big markets, they go to the casinos but they got to the cities as well and they pack everything. That's the way to go. I am not saying ignore the casinos completely but at the same time fan bases have to be built. Not everybody could travel to Las Vegas for the whole weekend, not everybody wants to travel. I fthere is a big fight in Toronto I could get 7-10 people to come with me, and I am ahrdcore to the bone. I can't get even 3 people to come to Vegas with me.

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #52
      Originally posted by pesticid
      In the NFL is only once, during the superbowl and prior to that it's about each team and each community. We could have DLH vs MAyweather in a Casino where tickets are all for corporate buyers but we can;t have all boxing matches like that.
      Not exactly true. The NFL contracts with the networks and gets a HUGE fee and the franchises share in the revenues from that TV contract. All the teams share in the TV deal. Not just the teams you see on any given Sunday.

      By contrast, in baseball, teams structure individual TV deals. Here in NYC, the yankees have a deal with the YES Network. That TV deal ALONE generates more revenue than the Kansas City Royals makes from ALL sources. That TV deal is what enables the Yankees to spend $200 million on payroll. Not ticket sales.

      Regarding your second point, I agree. You can only get in bed with the corporate whores for a big fight. Nobody was gonna pony up big corporate dollars for Margarito-Cintron (example). So they relied on the gate and on PPV sales.

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      • Maxy
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        #53
        Fact is a bunch of elitist snobs won't enhance boxing long term. They will walk away when its not worth being seen at the event.

        A change of direction is imperitive and this ticket fiasco merely underlines it.

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        • DIOS DOMINICANO
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          #54
          Originally posted by pesticid
          UFC is gaining popularity because they go to the big markets, they go to the casinos but they got to the cities as well and they pack everything. That's the way to go. I am not saying ignore the casinos completely but at the same time fan bases have to be built. Not everybody could travel to Las Vegas for the whole weekend, not everybody wants to travel. I fthere is a big fight in Toronto I could get 7-10 people to come with me, and I am ahrdcore to the bone. I can't get even 3 people to come to Vegas with me.
          That is an excellent point. But please keep in mind the purses in the UFC compared to the purses in boxing. Those guys make A FRACTION OF WHAT A BOXER MAKES. So the financial pressure is less. Plus, the "UFC" is always the promoter. In boxing, you have Golden Boy, Top rank, main event, Goossen tutor, sycuan, etc, etc. Boxing has no organization. dana white can call any fighter and tell him what to do. There is some governance. Bob Arum isn't allowed to call Floyd.

          Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, tito Ortiz and Rampage Jackson can't even SNIFF Oscar/Floyd/Hatton/Shane - type paydays.

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          • Azteca
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            #55
            Originally posted by Maxy
            Fact is a bunch of elitist snobs won't enhance boxing long term. They will walk away when its not worth being seen at the event.

            A change of direction is imperitive and this ticket fiasco merely underlines it.
            Yep. I agree 100%.

            Boxing attracts huge numbers in Europe. Klitschko is a huge commodity. Hatton and Calzaghe attract 30,000 a fight. 25,000 are willing to fly over to see Ricky in there against FMJ.

            The guy above is talking about corporate sponsers...I dont buy it. GB promotions had an incredible amount of sponsers for the big event "the world awaits'. Do you really think that GB promotions couldn't do the same for this event???? I sure dont. Load of ****e.

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            • SkillspayBills
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              #56
              Originally posted by Maxy
              Fact is a bunch of elitist snobs won't enhance boxing long term. They will walk away when its not worth being seen at the event.

              A change of direction is imperitive and this ticket fiasco merely underlines it.
              I concur but as long as the live gate is not where the majority of the money comes from, than things won't change.

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              • pesticid
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                #57
                Dios,
                I am not following you when you say that selling seats is being offset by PPV's. That depends on how many PPV's there are. And it doesn't mean that if you're selling your own venue you can't sell PPV's as well. Wasn't Hatton vs Tzsuy on PPV? Selling your own venue you don't just make money from tickets you make money from food, drinks, etc. How could the boxing fans support boxing if they each have to go to Vegas or Atlantic City where the Casinos are?

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                • THe TRiNiTY
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                  #58
                  This would be a big win and on the HUGE side, in terms of upsets. But, regardless of all that, Hatton still has to be able to do that. Decent interview. I like Hatton, don't think he will win, but I like him. The tickets thing sucks, he should be able to secure around 8,000-10,000 to be fair. They'll have upwards or around 20,000 tickets available, anyway.

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                  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                    I concur but as long as the live gate is not where the majority of the money comes from, than things won't change.
                    I'm actually surprised that we haven't seen MORE boxing on a smaller scale with lower-priced PPV's.

                    For example, would some of you Americans have paid $9.95 or $14.95 to see Witter-Harris? I know that i would have.

                    But , of course, I'm a hardcore fan. Perhaps there wouldn't be enough people to do that.

                    Buying a low-profile fight for even $19.95 is cheaper than a night out at the movies. Not every PPV needs to be the huge event for $54.95.

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                    • Ironside
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                      #60
                      Yea, $50 is way too much. ****** PPV's are ruining boxing.

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