Hatton interview with Sky last night

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

boxing is not struggling now, thats just a fact.

but this fight should have been held in england, hbo would have still covered it, and there would have been more people in attendance.

America is the mecca of mcdonalds, not boxing.

1) Floyd Mayweather is an HBO contracted fighter. He is the "sell" in this fight. The "a" side. Why would they subordinate their rights to a UK network?

2) What time would you stage the fight local time?

3) How many people would you need in attendance to offset the PPV buys?

4) Name a fight that was staged overseas that generated big US revenue.

5) How would PBF/GBP/MP/HBO manage their Vegas relationships if they took that revenue out of Nevada?

[Azteca]

1) Floyd Mayweather is an HBO contracted fighter. He is the "sell" in this fight. The "a" side. Why would they subordinate their rights to a UK network?

2) What time would you stage the fight local time?

3) How many people would you need in attendance to offset the PPV buys?

4) Name a fight that was staged overseas that generated big US revenue.

5) How would PBF/GBP/MP/HBO manage their Vegas relationships if they took that revenue out of Nevada?

Yeah that is a good point. As usual it comes all down to money.

[pesticid]

I am not going to argue that I know the exact economics with respect to the Casinos carrying the venues and what promoters are getting in exchange. That is for porfessional journalism. Maybe, Thomas Hausser has written a good column about the issue, I don;t know, I;ll have to ask him if he's written smth about it. Bob Arum said lately though that by having your own site and venue you're doing what you;re paid to do and that's promoting. I wholeheartedly agree with that. When a Casino takes over, whose mgt knows nothing about the fight game then boxing as a sport is in trouble. U.S. promoters should take notice of what some of their counterparts in Europe are doing.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

So apathetic American attitude to boxing means we end up with a bunch of non boxing fans attending the fight ringside just because they spend a lot of money?

Exactly!!

It is about money. HBO is in it for money. So is Floyd. So is Golden Boy Promotions. So are the casinos. Etc. Etc.

...this can't be new news to you.

The SuperBowl is the same way. It is attending by corporate lackeys. Not hardcore NFL fans.

[pesticid]

No... I meant LITERALLY TV commercials. American sports is structured for TV consumption. That is why you see so many breaks in the action. Euro/Latino sports are set up differently where a major corporate sponsor may get jersey rights or something like that.

A 30 second spot during the SuperBowl sells for $2 million.

What does this have to do with boxing and payperviews?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I am not going to argue that I know the exact economics with respect to the Casinos carrying the venues and what promoters are getting in exchange. That is for porfessional journalism. Maybe, Thomas Hausser has written a good column about the issue, I don;t know, I;ll have to ask him if he's written smth about it. Bob Arum said lately though that by having your own site and venue you're doing what you;re paid to do and that's promoting. I wholeheartedly agree with that. When a Casino takes over, whose mgt knows nothing about the fight game then boxing as a sport is in trouble. U.S. promoters should take notice of what some of their counterparts in Europe are doing.

Arum probably said that when one of the casinos didn't want to take on one of his no-name fights. But please notice that when he has primo fighter, he runs DIRECTLY to Vegas or AC.

Slippery Bob.

ENGLAND IS DIFFERENT. You guys have legalized sports books all over. In order to gamble here, Americans have to go to one of the few places where sports ******** is legal. That is a major factor.

[pesticid]

In the NFL is only once, during the superbowl and prior to that it's about each team and each community. We could have DLH vs MAyweather in a Casino where tickets are all for corporate buyers but we can;t have all boxing matches like that.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

What does this have to do with boxing and payperviews?

I was making the comparison between Engish sports like football (which has no commercial breaks) and US football (which has a commercial break every five minutes).

It is how the sport is funded, and ultimately how the fighters/participants are compensated.

The boxing parallel is that big US matches are funded by PPV... not by the gate revenues.

[pesticid]

In Canada you can't bet on boxing. In Montral however, I forgot the name of the venue, it's sold out repeatedly and they put on great shows just like the Cotto vs Judah fight. Cotto vs MAyweatehr is goona be a huge success and Bob Arum and DLH will make more money if they had the fight in a casino.

[Maxy]

Exactly!!

It is about money. HBO is in it for money. So is Floyd. So is Golden Boy Promotions. So are the casinos. Etc. Etc.

...this can't be new news to you.

The SuperBowl is the same way. It is attending by corporate lackeys. Not hardcore NFL fans.

Yes and its the same over here to an extent with football. There are the real fans and the so called prawn sandwich brigade - the people who come for a social event and spend money on executive boxes blah blah blah.

The fact is this does not do sport, ANY sport, ANY good in the long term. If the real fans are driven out, the sport will eventually die. Boxing in America is not healthy right now.

Look at the current world amateur rankings...