Hatton interview with Sky last night

[THe TRiNiTY]

I'm actually surprised that we haven't seen MORE boxing on a smaller scale with lower-priced PPV's.

For example, would some of you Americans have paid $9.95 or $14.95 to see Witter-Harris? I know that i would have.

But , of course, I'm a hardcore fan. Perhaps there wouldn't be enough people to do that.

Buying a low-profile fight for even $19.95 is cheaper than a night out at the movies. Not every PPV needs to be the huge event for $54.95.

Very good point. A Maruqez-Juarez PPV for 10 bucks, or so.. I'd pay for, and not feel like I have the chance of being ripped off. Spend a little less on putting the fight together, with the venue, major promotion, so on and so forth, so that the PPV market can actually make a profit out of this, and it'd be pretty successful. It'd also help find out who deserves to be on PPV or not. You'd be abe to "graduate" to full-on PPVs without the feeling of "if this PPV doesn't sell for me, I'm stuck on HBO or Showtime.. You'd have a couple of chances here to impress and catch on.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Dios,
I am not following you when you say that selling seats is being offset by PPV's. That depends on how many PPV's there are. And it doesn't mean that if you're selling your own venue you can't sell PPV's as well. Wasn't Hatton vs Tzsuy on PPV? Selling your own venue you don't just make money from tickets you make money from food, drinks, etc. How could the boxing fans support boxing if they each have to go to Vegas or Atlantic City where the Casinos are?

If you stage the fight in England, you will lose domestic PPV's here in the states. Even if you stage the fight at 2am manchester time to coincide with a 9pm East Coast US time.

So, you have to calculate the trade-offs between the potential UPSIDE in tickets sold, and the potential DOWNSIDE in lost PPV revenues.

Food and drinks is additional revenues, but lower profit on a net margin basis. You also have COSTS associated with that. Fixed and variable costs like supplies, cleaning, service, security, etc.

By contrast, having the Jones family turn on their cable box costs NOTHING. That is Pure profit.

[Super_Lightweight]

This will not be bigger than when Tarver KOd Roy, for shock value anyway.

Although, I agree that Hatton will win this fight.

[pesticid]

When you sell tickets and PPV's you're doing one thing and one thing only, promoting a fight card. I don't know how the PPV's could suffer if you get gate money. The casinos don't promote the fights and they get the live gate money and exposure. So instead boxing promoters can get gate money and ppv's. But most of them are too lazy to promote, that's where the problem is.

[Maxy]

If you stage the fight in England, you will lose domestic PPV's here in the states. Even if you stage the fight at 2am manchester time to coincide with a 9pm East Coast US time.

So, you have to calculate the trade-offs between the potential UPSIDE in tickets sold, and the potential DOWNSIDE in lost PPV revenues.

Food and drinks is additional revenues, but lower profit on a net margin basis. You also have COSTS associated with that. Fixed and variable costs like supplies, cleaning, service, security, etc.

By contrast, having the Jones family turn on their cable box costs NOTHING. That is Pure profit.

Look this isn't an economics class. I suggest you sample the atmosphere at a casino fight and then compare it to one at a stadium...the latter will blow you away.

Oh, and lets not forget that the fight at the stadium holds a much larger percentage of TRUE boxing fans, which ultimately is better for the sport in general.

[pesticid]

and you're doing business long-term rather than short-term.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Look this isn't an economics class. I suggest you sample the atmosphere at a casino fight and then compare it to one at a stadium...the latter will blow you away.

Oh, and lets not forget that the fight at the stadium holds a much larger percentage of TRUE boxing fans, which ultimately is better for the sport in general.

How do you know it will blow him away? Maybe he prefers the ******** atmosphere, with hot chicks walking around, ready to blow the right guy for some money. It sounds dumb, but different people like different things. I'd prefer the casino.. I love ********, though I'm sure the stadium atmosphere is GREAT. No joke, I would appreciate both for different reasons.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

When you sell tickets and PPV's you're doing one thing and one thing only, promoting a fight card. I don't know how the PPV's could suffer if you get gate money. The casinos don't promote the fights and they get the live gate money and exposure. So instead boxing promoters can get gate money and ppv's. But most of them are too lazy to promote, that's where the problem is.

Casinos don't "promote" the fights... but they DO help in the promotion and marketing. They put it on their billboard. they put it on their website. They advertise in the paper, magazines and traditional avenues. The weigh-in (which helps sell the event last minute) is usually coordinated by the casino venue, etc...

The people you SHOULD be questioning, I think, is the promoter.

Here's an example:

Floyd-Baldo sold 335K PPV buys. Floyd made $10.5 milliion.

Pac-Erik 3 sold 340K PPV buys. Their COMBINED purses were about $8 million.

Where did the rest of the money go?? ARUM'S POCKET!! That is why the (smart) top fighters end up self-promoting.

[Maxy]

How do you know it will blow him away? Maybe he prefers the ******** atmosphere, with hot chicks walking around, ready to blow the right guy for some money. It sounds dumb, but different people like different things. I'd prefer the casino.. I love ********, though I'm sure the stadium atmosphere is GREAT. No joke, I would appreciate both for different reasons.

Sample it.

A REAL fan will get the point. I watch boxing because I'm a boxing fan. If I want some whore to blow me I don't go to the boxing to achieve that aim.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Sample it.

A REAL fan will get the point. I watch boxing because I'm a boxing fan. If I want some whore to blow me I don't go to the boxing to achieve that aim.

You you were talking atmosphere. And don't try and cop out and say because I like the casino atmosphere that I'm not a real fan. I said I'd liek both, I can have a difference in opinion and still be a REAL fan. Ever thing I might be nostalgic and appreciate the smokey (though, today they are much less smokey) closed in venue where you see even the celebrities get into it because it's such a good fight??