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  • #51
    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
    I agree that SRR is the GOAT. Although his losses trouble me.

    Paulie Malignaggi said that PBF would have beaten Ray Robinson.
    I think he manage to defeat all that have beat him. + He wasn't in his prime and he had a great chance to win a belt but passed out cause it was 120 D. BTW thats when I stoped being a fan of Malignaggi. It was when he said that in a video u posted. Remember??

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    • #52
      Do you agree with Paul, Dios? At the risk of being killed, there are elements of Mayweather's ability that I can see being capable of that feat.

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      • #53
        For one SRR is faster stronger smarter and can go 15 rounds. SRR will unleash a pwerful combination on the smaller guy PBF. PBF knows deep inside that he cant beat SRR.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Grappler_Baki60 View Post
          I think he manage to defeat all that have beat him. + He wasn't in his prime and he had a great chance to win a belt but passed out cause it was 120 D. BTW thats when I stopped being a fan of Malignaggi. It was when he said that in a video u posted. Remember??
          Yeah. And PM said it so definitively.

          But I think Paulie feels that way because he likes classic boxers. And PM acknowledges that PBF has alot more pop than he does. I think Paulie looks at PBF and sees a guy who does EVERYTHING better than himself, and he admires that guy. No harm in that.

          All I tell people is that if you can't/won't put PBF on the shortlist of GOATs, then do NOT bring up Marciano's name either.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Grappler_Baki60 View Post
            For one SRR is faster stronger smarter and can go 15 rounds. SRR will unleash a pwerful combination on the smaller guy PBF. PBF knows deep inside that he cant beat SRR.
            SRR was a full -fledged MW. I believe that people - and Paulie - mean a mythical P4P matchup.

            And no. I think PBF very much BELIEVES that he is GOAT. Floyd was 130 and calling out Oscar Delahoya.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by beauty View Post
              Do you agree with Paul, Dios? At the risk of being killed, there are elements of Mayweather's ability that I can see being capable of that feat.
              I think Pernell Whitaker would have beaten SRR in a mythical p4p matchup.

              I think that Mayweather probably would have been drawn into a slugging match, and would have lost. But it would NOT be a blowout.

              I feel that Floyd belongs in the ring with ANY fighter who has ever laced on gloves. Not saying he is the best. But he is NEVER outclassed. Ever.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
                Yeah. And PM said it so definitively.

                But I think Paulie feels that way because he likes classic boxers. And PM acknowledges that PBF has alot more pop than he does. I think Paulie looks at PBF and sees a guy who does EVERYTHING better than himself, and he admires that guy. No harm in that.

                All I tell people is that if you can't/won't put PBF on the shortlist of GOATs, then do NOT bring up Marciano's name either.
                I agree with you 100% PBF has already done more then what Marciano has. If PBF doesn't belong on the shortlist then Marciano doesn't either. Anyone can be undefeated fighting bums. PBF in fact fought the belt holders. Also defeating people that are naturally bigger then him.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
                  I think Pernell Whitaker would have beaten SRR in a mythical p4p matchup.

                  I think that Mayweather probably would have been drawn into a slugging match, and would have lost. But it would NOT be a blowout.

                  I feel that Floyd belongs in the ring with ANY fighter who has ever laced on gloves. Not saying he is the best. But he is NEVER outclassed. Ever.
                  Sorry to say it'd be a blowout. SRR is fast as hell. He has the footwork. Believe me when I tell u this. PBF would have to go after SRR in order to win because SRR's reach height advantage speed and skills would have him winning every round. As soon as PBF goes in he gonna get hit with the legendary left hook. Pernell and SRR would be a good fight. Then again how could u use that art of defense against someone as fast as SRR. Its a weird! But yeah the smaller guy would have to after the bigger guy and we rarely see that.
                  Last edited by Grappler_Baki60; 08-08-2007, 09:56 AM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Grappler_Baki60 View Post
                    I agree with you 100% PBF has already done more then what Marciano has. If PBF doesn't belong on the shortlist then Marciano doesn't either. Anyone can be undefeated fighting bums. PBF in fact fought the belt holders. Also defeating people that are naturally bigger then him.
                    I wonder how people would have viewed PBF's legacy if he stayed down at 135 (easily) and beat Freitas, Casamayor (which would have broken my heart), Forbes, Raheem, etc.

                    At that point, would people see him as one of history's great LW's?

                    There is no doubt in my mind that Floyd would have dominated the 135 division for a long time. He had already beaten the two killers @ LW. Much of the criticism he gets is because of his style. But he changed that style for Baldomir and Delahoya ONLY.

                    Anyone who criticizes PBF as "a runner" just started watching boxing. They need to remember that PBF is naturally a little guy. He just got to 140 about seven fights ago.

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                    • #60
                      Grappler,

                      I'm asking you to suspend the "bigger guy" mindset. This is a P4P matchup.

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