Legacies: Roy Jones Vs. Sugar Ray Leonard

[wmute]

This is a silly thread its like comparing Ali to Lennox Lewis. Ray Leonard was a way better fighter and fought way better competition. It just to bad that he had that eye injury cause we would have saw more of him. Let Roy have fought Hagler, Hearns, or Duran.....lmao u would have saw the paramedics take roy out n a casket

He would have knocked out Hearns and Duran, and who knows Hagler. edit: by "who knows" i mean he might have decisioned him, I am not suggesting Hagler would get stopped by Jones in any way

Remember Jones was KOing middleweights with one punch, and fighting at 175 for a good time, it's silly to suggest than a lightweight and a welterweight, as good as they are, would be able to KO that type of middleweight.

[GunStar]

I agree and they were not as poor outings as the camacho fight was. 2 months short of 41 is 40.

Well Leonard was not KTFO and he was not 35 years old against Camacho, he was 2 months shy of 41. Jones was 6 years younger!

No, and Leonard did not go up to HW.

Leonard was the smaller guy, heavyweight was not possible for Leonard.

so...? he was 35 and fighting above his natural weight of 160 (168 at most). At the same age Leonard got schooled by Norris at 154, which for a 5'10" fighter is a pretty natural weight to be at.

Jones was fighting at 175 for 8 years, that was his natural weight, 8 years is longer then some careers.

Leonard moved down from 168 to 154 to fight Norris, oh wait let me make the same excuse he was weight drained. Leonard was away from boxing for 2 years cause of his ******* problem, so when he returned to fight Norris after 2 years, he was an ex cokehead.

It is a perfectly legit "excuse", as Jones looked dead all through the first Tarver fight, as opposed to hopping around the ring like a basketball player in a playground. Jones looked nothing like Jones in that fight.

The weight excuse is not a legit excuse, Jones won his first fight against Tarver, so he can only be weight drained in the first Tarver fight, not the second fight which was 7 months after the first fight.

Jones looked the same in the last 3 or 4 years, he was a little slower since the Richard Hall fight, just watch the Harding fight. So I didn't see any difference, the only difference was he was fighting Tarver which was the best fighter he fought since Toney 10 years ago.

so...?

You mentioned the Hearns fight and I responded!

"fixed" that, but what do you care if I voted or not?

I wanted to see you vote cause you were making excuses for Jones left and right.

I dont get exactly what your point? None of the two did **** at 35 and on. Jones stayed in the ring and did not do **** while Leonard immediately retired (which I think Jones should have done, too) and by definition fo retirement did not so **** either. what's the difference? Leonard chose to retire, it's not like he would have kicked ass if he could, he fought Norris, saw the condition of his reflexes, stamina, speed and decided to hang them up.
Jones' loss against Tarver should tarnish his legacy, but Leonard loss against Norris should not? that sounds a bit biased...

Once again Leonard was away from boxing for 2 years cause of his ******* problem, so when he returned to fight Norris after 2 years, he was an ex cokehead.

Leonard also missed some of his prime years cause the detached retina in his left eye, that was 3 prime years Leonard missed he came back and won the middleweight title from my favorite fighter Marvelous Marvin Hagler, then he moved up to 168 for 3 fights, then he was away for 2 more years cause of his ******* problem.

These are the reasons why Leonard was washed up at the age of 35, he was inactive for years cause of detached retina in his left eye for 3 years and ******* for 2 years. BTW Leonard was never knocked the **** out!

[GunStar]

He would have knocked out Hearns and Duran, and who knows Hagler. edit: by "who knows" i mean he might have decisioned him, I am not suggesting Hagler would get stopped by Jones in any way

Remember Jones was KOing middleweights with one punch, and fighting at 175 for a good time, it's silly to suggest than a lightweight and a welterweight, as good as they are, would be able to KO that type of middleweight.

Jones could've also been knocked out with his chin, Just imagine getting hit clean by the Hitman Hearns, anyway not you or anyone else knows what would've happened if these guys ever fought, it's a fantasy fight and you can have your fantasies about it, that's all!

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

Jones gets my vote because he went up to HW and Leonard was the ODLH of his era!!!

Seemed to get lucky calls by the judges!!!

Time will help Roys claim!!!

[GunStar]

Jones gets my vote because he went up to HW and Leonard was the ODLH of his era!!!

Seemed to get lucky calls by the judges!!!

Time will help Roys claim!!!

In what fights??? The only gift Leonard got was in the second Hearns fight which he almost knocked out Hearns out in the last minute of the fight.

Many people thought he won the Duran first fight, so if he was gifted by the judges, then why didn't he get the first Duran fight.

Hagler and Toney are 2 of my all time favorite fighters of all time and I thought Leonard won his fight against my favorite fighter Hagler.

[demirturk]

Jones could've also been knocked out with his chin, Just imagine getting hit clean by the Hitman Hearns, anyway not you or anyone else knows what would've happened if these guys ever fought, it's a fantasy fight and you can have your fantasies about it, that's all!

are you saying a 148 pounder hits harder then tarver?? dont tell me hes a natural MW.

[GunStar]

are you saying a 148 pounder hits harder then tarver?? dont tell me hes a natural MW.

Yes Thomas Hearns at 168 hit harder then Tarver at 175, I thought you knew that.

[demirturk]

Yes Thomas Hearns at 168 hit harder then Tarver at 175, I thought you knew that.

who has he ko'd ?? roy jones stopped hill with a ****ing body shot. being the first to stop him.

[demirturk]

that punch would break hearns in half.

[danny stash]

Jones is a laughing joke in that era.

dumb statement. The way he destroyed James Toney is testament to your idiocy. You are now number one on my list of ****** posters.