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  • Easy-E
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    #121
    Originally posted by beez721
    lol,,,another ignorant person that thinks punches from brew was the problem. he gassed,,plain and simple. it was a fluke and the rematch showed that. frazier was 204 lbs in his prime and wlad would have taken him out within 3 rounds
    biased nonsense.g
    were talking about Joe ****ing Fraizer, he would knock Wlad the **** out.

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    • ROSEWOOD
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      #122
      Originally posted by guru
      1. Wlad, Lewis and VK could have competed with heavyweights of any era and held their own.

      These giants are also athletes, gifted with hand speed, reflexes, strength and crushing power. They would have made for difficult fights for Holmes, Ali, Louis and Patterson. Not saying they would have won, but it would not have been a cake walk to beat them. In addition to their size, they have unique styles that maximizes their natural advantages, using their height, reach and jab.
      I believe this is True for L. Lewis...Wald is getting there and V. Kilt retired before we could actually see him in action...

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      • ROSEWOOD
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        #123
        Originally posted by guru
        2. Margarito is one of the top guys at 147

        People like to diss him, but this guy is for real, he's no bum. He lost a close fight to PWill and had he started a little sooner may have scored a draw or the win. He’s good for boxing too, he’s recently fought three relatively, young undefeated fighters(P Will, Cintron, Hercules) and two guys with just one loss. Floyd hasn’t fought another young, undefeated fighter in 7 years. So why hate on a guy, who’s fighting real competition, guys that can provide real challenges? 147 is boxing’s deepest division at the moment and Margo is in the top 10, if not top 5. He could have avoided PWill for a much bigger fight with Cotto, when was the last time a champion did that? So you gotta give him his props.
        Yea he is definitely in the top ten...prob. #10...

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        • guru
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          #124
          Originally posted by Easy-E
          if by semi-retired you mean...not retired at all, then ya, youve got a point.
          Oscar was an active fighter and theres no argument there.
          OK, I recant my statement and issue this one in its place:

          "a 35 year old, past his prime fighter, averaging a little over a bout a year, with a record of 4-3 in the last 5 years... "

          there, no arguing that....

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            #125
            Originally posted by guru
            3. Williams will make for a tough fight for anyone at 147

            Williams is so unique and unorthodox, he would give anyone fits. He has his flaws (leaky defense, gets hit, doesn’t sit down on his punches), but he masks them very well with his style and volume of punches. I think he will be avoided by the other top guys at 147, not because they’re afraid of losing to him, but because of the difficult challenge he will present. It will be a grueling, taxing fight to beat him.
            His lenght will give most in the 147 division problems...example, Hatton short a$$ would get done like Lewis did Tyson...Sat back and picked him apart..

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              #126
              Originally posted by guru
              5. Shane and Oscar are past their time primes and quickly slipping

              In the past 6 years Shane is 5-4-1 with his biggest wins being a questionable decision over Oscar and two wins over a shot Vargas. Prior to losing to PBF, Oscar was 4-2 the last 5 years with a highly questionable win over Sturm. Oscar is almost 35 and Shane is almost 36. Neither fighter has been considered a top P4P fighter in years and they’re averaging only about a fight a year. Yet somehow people wanted to see Floyd fight Oscar and now they want him to fight Shane. I don’t understand it. These guys are past their primes and on their last legs. I don’t even think Shane could beat Cintron or Pwill and Oscar is trying to get 140lb Hatton to come up and fight him. Both guys are at least 5-6 years past their primes.
              DLH - maybe

              Sugar - Heck no...

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                #127
                Originally posted by Easy-E
                Say two fighters fight close competitive rounds, but one fighter clearly wins each round, pitching a shutout, but the fight was tough because he took 12 rounds of punishment.

                Stop smoking kid

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                • beez721
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Easy-E
                  biased nonsense.g
                  were talking about Joe ****ing Fraizer, he would knock Wlad the **** out.
                  yea,,,frazier who couldnt beat a big strong heavy with skills and power. moron

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                  • squealpiggy
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                    #129
                    probably not judah but maybe castillo and corrales based on their accomplishments

                    judah is more talented than hatton and cotto

                    do you think cotto and hatton based on their careers so far are HOF's?
                    Hatton beat Castillo and he beat Tszyu who beat the "more talented" Zab Judah, so he's beaten a couple of HOFers there... So by your rationale, he should be a HOFer.

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                      #130
                      as anyone been the undisputed champ in 5 divisions?
                      I don't think so but Henry Armstrong held the world title (and there was only one per division at the time) at featherweight, lightweight and welterweight all at the same time. These span a total of 21 lbs which is around the same (a little less) weight differential as Floyd's titles span. Armstrong went between the three weight classes to defend the titles as well.

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