Seriously Floyd fans

[bsrizpac]

Floyd did exactly what I expected, and that's what is disappointing.

Roy and Floyd's style's are not all that similar. Floyd fights more like James Toney than Roy, and has way less power p4p than either man.

As a man, there are things I like and sympathize with about Floyd.

As a fighter, I respect him but he bores me. He talks smack but did not back it up in this case.

And yes, in the 5th round (I think) Roy hurt Ruiz was tried to knock him out but the round ended too quickly. It's there for anyone to see. I've watched the fight at least 10 times.

Just because Floyd couldn't hurt Oscar does not mean he could not have thrown more than he did.

Did you see the gif posted? Floyd wobbled Oscar a few times. As for the fifth round of Ruiz Jones, yes I enjoyed that too, but Jones made a real half ass attempt next rounds to do anything at all with it.

Are you dis*****g that Jones took the last bunch of rounds off of the fight? Are you dis*****g that Jones would do that when he made a lot of him opponents look silly (take rounds 9-12) and just coast to a victory?

Sounds a lot like what you're saying Floyd does is all I'm saying.

And yes I understand that Floyd and Roy's styles are not exactly the same and that he shoulder rolls more like Toney than Roy. I'm just talking about how they approach a fight, how often they jab, leading with the left hook and straight right, and not engaging as much as a lot of people would like them to.

That's all.

Roy in his prime (lower weights) engaged a lot more

Floyd at lower weights engaged a lot more.

The similarities are there.

[.::|ULTIMATE|::.]

Yes I thought Floyd won. He did a 'good' job. No need to bring Oscar into this. If Floyd is happy with himself, let him retire. It's his right. There's something to be said for sticking to your word. But it's simple for you Floyd fans:

If you are happy and 100% satisfied with the way Floyd fought Saturday night, then you are either very easily satisfied, or you are sycophantic. In other words, you do not question anything Floyd does, and your view of reality is askew.

Floyd did not give his best; did not show the fans what we wanted.

He will be remembered as a great fighter who did not quite satisfy, if he stays retired.

Great Post.

[-EX-]

before baldy i thought he was exciting to watch in most of his fights, its just mainly his last 2 fights he did not do enough. i cant blame him for being cautious with dlh but baldy cant punch and is to slow, he could have jus standed in front of and made him miss and pay.

Floyd hurt his hand in that fight. As far as the DLH fight. He never "really" hurt Oscar. He may have stopped him in his tracks momentarily he didn't send Oscar packing or really wobbled him. Floyd is going to fight the smartest possible at 147 and 154.

[Super_Lightweight]

Floyd wobbled Oscar a few times.

Oscar was never hurt though, not truly. Not like Ruiz was. Oscar was just caught off guard by the speed. There was not a moment in the fight where it seemed Oscar was possibly going to get stopped.

I think the criticisms of Roy are more true with Floyd than Roy.

[Piggu]

THIS IS SO TRUE

wtf? Who was owned in that post?

[Guest]

Oscar was never hurt though, not truly. Not like Ruiz was. Oscar was just caught off guard by the speed. There was not a moment in the fight where it seemed Oscar was possibly going to get stopped.

I think the criticisms of Roy are more true with Floyd than Roy.

Do you seriously think Roy took more chances against Ruiz than Floyd did against Oscar? Both guys used their best asset (speed) to their advantage and didn't take unnecessary chances.

You want to talk about a fight where a guy took no chances whatsoever? Go watch Roy being a dumbass and sticking his tongue out at Tarver all night in the third fight. He was so scared of a man his own size that he wouldn't dare to engage. Then he has the nerve to talk about doing it a fourth time...

[bsrizpac]

You must have watched a different Roy vs. Ruiz fight. Although I do agree that Jones had Ruiz hurt for an instant in that fifth round.

but you still haven't answered me about taking rounds off.

You only responded with "critiques of Roy apply more to Floyd than Roy"?

Really? He went toe to toe with Chavez, Burton, N'Dou, Castillo at times at the end of the first fight, Gatti etc.

Only recently has he been way more defensive than before.

It would be like dogging Roy's career by only watching his later Light Heavyweight fights where he would beat a guy up and then just coast to the finish. He did this as many times as Floyd did.

Basically from where I stand you're a Roy fan and you're enough so that you're completely biased on this one issue. I think you are a fan of Oscar so you do tend to like Action fighters but I was merely pointing out similarities.

I'm not trying to turn this into insulting Roy, I'm a huge Roy fan and don't think it matters HOW he won. But Roy's fights were not usually exciting to every casual fan.

I mean for example I can show anyone the Floyd vs. Bruseles fight and they would be impressed, just like I can show someone Roy vs. Clinton woods. But they would be impressed by the athleticism not the "killer instinct".

Like I said, when younger and smaller Roy did finish off people.

Same with Floyd. Even if he doesn't have the power that Roy did (at his weight) he would try to get guys like N'dou, Chavez and Burton out of there.

[bsrizpac]

Also I think that Roy was an all time great but he also took to shelling up when hurt. He was not an all action fighter by any means.....

[The Noose]

So fighting toe to toe means a person has heart?
I find it funny all the love Sugar Ray Leonard gets for his fighting but at the sametime he really was a boxer just like PBF. Sugar Ray Leonard lost his first fight with Duran being ****** by not boxing and standing toe to toe. In the 2nd fight he did what he was supposed to do which was box and he won. The only reason Sugar Ray ever got into a brawl was because thats what it was going to take to win the fight not because that is what he wanted to do.

For me, Leonard won my respect by fighting Duran the way he did.
Duran was near his best and was one of the best in-fighters of all time, Leonard the super-slick boxer showed everyone what he was made of.

[amagnin]

I don't think its fair to even put RJJ and Mayweather in the same category. Mayweather can be criticized for being boring in his dominance because he doesn't have the exciting KO's or toe to toe exchanges. RJJ can be criticized because his fights were boring because he was fighting such poor opponents. Honestly, Philip Ndou and Brussles are not good by any means but at least they were professional boxers not garbage men and police officers. John Ruiz was about as dangerous as Mayweather taking on Carlos Baldomir.