the only thing that impressed me about oscar is that he acctually throw so many punches, what impressed me about Floyd Mayweather is that he made oscar miss alot (oscar landed 112 punches) he rocked oscar a few times but in no way was in any danger of gettin knocked out or dropped, Floyd is the man, he said he was gonna beat oscar, said he was gonna beat everyone, everyone has always been bigger stronger harder puncher bla bla bla, it takes smarts to win fights not anything else
Seriously Floyd fans
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You must have watched a different Roy vs. Ruiz fight. Although I do agree that Jones had Ruiz hurt for an instant in that fifth round.
but you still haven't answered me about taking rounds off.
You only responded with "critiques of Roy apply more to Floyd than Roy"?
Really? He went toe to toe with Chavez, Burton, N'Dou, Castillo at times at the end of the first fight, Gatti etc.
Only recently has he been way more defensive than before.
It would be like dogging Roy's career by only watching his later Light Heavyweight fights where he would beat a guy up and then just coast to the finish. He did this as many times as Floyd did.
Basically from where I stand you're a Roy fan and you're enough so that you're completely biased on this one issue. I think you are a fan of Oscar so you do tend to like Action fighters but I was merely pointing out similarities.
I'm not trying to turn this into insulting Roy, I'm a huge Roy fan and don't think it matters HOW he won. But Roy's fights were not usually exciting to every casual fan.
I mean for example I can show anyone the Floyd vs. Bruseles fight and they would be impressed, just like I can show someone Roy vs. Clinton woods. But they would be impressed by the athleticism not the "killer instinct".
Like I said, when younger and smaller Roy did finish off people.
Same with Floyd. Even if he doesn't have the power that Roy did (at his weight) he would try to get guys like N'dou, Chavez and Burton out of there.
It's not the same. Not at all. Floyd has no power. Roy fought as a small man at 175 most of his career, and he HURT guys. You can see the difference in their fights. Roy knocked the **** out of people. That's why he can get away with throwing the same amount as Floyd, because the quality of the connects is simply better.Comment
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It wasnt his best fight but it was the biggest fight he has had!!! So i think he may have been nervous for this one but he won it anyway!!! If he does fight on ill be more than happy to watch him again!!! Gatti was the most impressive win he has had!!!Comment
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No power at the WEIGHT. You need to go back and watch some Floyd fights at lighter weights. For the most part at 130-140 he could hurt people. Does he have the power of Roy?It's not the same. Not at all. Floyd has no power. Roy fought as a small man at 175 most of his career, and he HURT guys. You can see the difference in their fights. Roy knocked the **** out of people. That's why he can get away with throwing the same amount as Floyd, because the quality of the connects is simply better.
No.
Does Roy have the technically superb defense and inside fighting ability of Flody?
No.
It's a tradeoff.
In any case you're essentially mad at Floyd for hyping the fight and saying he'd massacre Ruiz.
As opposed to Roy who promised he was "ready to die" against Tarver. Remember that one?
I'm just saying don't call one guy out for some **** and be a fan of another guy who does the EXACT same kind of stuff.Comment
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Second viewing I had the fight 7-5 for Mayweather. I had it 4-4 through 8 and I can easily see someone having it 5-3 either way since a couple rounds were close. Rounds 9, 10, and 2:30 of round 11 were dominated by Floyd. Thats where he won the fight imo. I noticed Oscar had great defense through 8 rounds. He picked off a lot of shots that I didnt notice when I first saw it. It was a good, entertaining fight, and Floyd dominates a rematch.Comment
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I agree. I also scored it 7-5 this weekend when I rewatched it without the intense atmosphere and all the hype. It was such an event on first viewing it neccesitated another watch and a focused scoring.Second viewing I had the fight 7-5 for Mayweather. I had it 4-4 through 8 and I can easily see someone having it 5-3 either way since a couple rounds were close. Rounds 9, 10, and 2:30 of round 11 were dominated by Floyd. Thats where he won the fight imo. I noticed Oscar had great defense through 8 rounds. He picked off a lot of shots that I didnt notice when I first saw it. It was a good, entertaining fight, and Floyd dominates a rematch.Comment
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Yes. I was happy with the fight. I found it entertaining. I enjoy defensive fighters. I like watching boxers who are so fast they can hit without getting hit. Counter punches are exciting.
Sorry I have no comparisons of great fighters, why bother. Those who dislike PBF will never be moved to like him. No matter who he fights at whatever weight.Comment
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:/ yeah we're all really illogical.Yes. I was happy with the fight. I found it entertaining. I enjoy defensive fighters. I like watching boxers who are so fast they can hit without getting hit. Counter punches are exciting.
Sorry I have no comparisons of great fighters, why bother. Those who dislike PBF will never be moved to like him. No matter who he fights at whatever weight.
The problem was, Floyd managed to not get hit but its not like he hit significantly(punchstats were inflated, any time Floyd hit leather it was apparently counted as a power shot, scoring based more on sound than on reality).Comment
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Perhaps punchstats were inflated. They are usually off. Floyd landed far more clean flush punches than Oscar did. Floyd made Oscar miss more than half the punches he threw. Sorry, but to me that is good boxing. Guess it is illogical of me and anyone else that enjoys a good defensive bout.Comment
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