Why does it matter so much if Mayweather beats Delahoya?

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  • !! $iN
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    #41
    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
    Right lets all finish this quicky so we discuss better things.

    1) Brussles was a mate of miguel Cotto, Floyd beat him up to try and get Cotto to fight, Cotto dont want none of Floyd, he went to the Gatti fight was so turned on by what he saw, his ******a started leaking, so dont bring that fight up as if it had no purpose, PBF was with Bob Arum so was Cotto, the fight could have happened, Arum didnt want Cotto to lose that early fight never happened.

    2) PBF left Arum to make a big money fight with De La Hoya on DLH'S terms, how is that ducking or being a *****? how many fighters leave their promoters in search of carrer defining fights?, Not many.

    3) Mayweather is very insecure, DO YOU KNOW HIM? nope, thats smack talk, dont give me some old wife's tale about how your mate knows mayweather's 23rd cousin and he told you that Mayweather has secret links to South American death squads. lol.

    4) How many times did floyd call out shane?, Exactly, plenty. He wanted Moesly in Feb and then De La Hoya in March, is that the actions of a *****, nope, what happened?

    De la Hoya was a ***** and didnt want Mayweather to fight till May cos he's hoping PBF will get rusty and if Mosley won DLH would lose his shine if he beat PBF. That makes De La Hoya a *****, he's doing everything to take floyd off his game, giving him gloves that'll break his hands, not allowing him to fight for 5 months, yet people on this board lick cream off his crouch. Talk about double standards.

    5) If mayweather dont have a legacy, who does? friggin Hopkins, please man, 130-154 being an undefeated p4p along the way gives you legacy and if you dont get that then i hope the operation goes well.

    6) You just wanna see Floyd get beat, thats all, people cant handle the fact he beating these guys with ease, its just talent, as soon as he loses these people will begin to admire him, it was the same with Roy Jones, people have this dum idea to be great in boxing you have to lose, its bull****, to be a great fighter, you gotta beat the great fighters of your time, floyd has beat some of the great fighters of his time, not all of them, but some, thus why he is considered a great.

    7) If Floyd aint a legend, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Hatton, Winky and some of these others guys who people love on this forum are not, its simple as that. Dont make up new rules for Floyd mayweather but then start telling me how beating Robert Allen or Evans Ashira makes you a legend.
    Nothing but facts...

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    • cortdawg25
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      #42
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      I agree that PBF ending it with victory over DLH....a guy he is slightly favourite to beat isnt such an achivement as SRL v Marvelous.
      Plus its not a case of PBF having to move up weights to prove he is good. You have to move up and beat the very best in that weight. Again....normally there is only one outstanding fighter in each weight class, so if you beat the second best it aint all that. Like a win over Baldy, although Baldy was good, he has lost a lot of fights and he wasnt the very best. Was he? And if Baldy was the best at 147, it was a **** division then. So PBF wouldnt get much credit for beating Baldy just like Hatton woulndt get so much credit for beating Collazo who also wasnt what you could call great.
      ANd at 140 Hatton was the main man there and PBF didnt box him. FOr example PBF might be good enough to beat a not very good lightmiddleweight champ, but doenst mean to say he will beat the recognized best at 140 or 147. Bit long winded what im saying.
      Its just like people thinking when RJJ beat Ruiz, RJJ could step down to lightheavy and beat anyone without breaking sweat and it dont work like that. RJJ didnt exactly beat Lennox Lewis did he? RJJ beat Ruiz a heavyweight, but still RJJ still aint considered as good as SRR. IF RJJ had of beat LL he would be. AM i right?
      IM not hating PBF...i am just basically a fan of boxing and there are some exciting fights out there that i want to watch.
      Collazo never was the undisputed linear champ of the division, he never was the man, but a titleholder. Baldomir was the man because he beat the man, he earned that in the ring like you supposed too and not by calling out fighters who you know you don't deserve to fight. And I know you not bringing up Hatton and 140 again. For thousandth time, Hatton didn't want it, please read SIN's sig!! Floyd beating Baldomir is not equivalent Roy Jones beating Ruiz. Roy Jones beating Ruiz is equivalent to Hatton beating Collazo...

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      • platinumknuckle
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        #43
        lol ... cortdawg??? lol ...ahahahahahahaha... i speak the truth son, do not get mad because I do...


        now those are facts ...

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        • !! $iN
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          #44
          Originally posted by platinumknuckle
          lol ... cortdawg??? lol ...ahahahahahahaha... i speak the truth son, do not get mad because I do...


          now those are facts ...
          Just read my sig if you want facts...

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          • Ether
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            #45
            platinumknuckle has never had *****.
            Has got into watching boxing just recently.
            And knows nothing about it.

            cong**** you are teh ghey n00b. (B)

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            • pbftxrs316
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              #46
              Originally posted by platinumknuckle
              listen to my argument....


              everyone started out at a lighter weight and then moved up... mayweather took the longest to move up... Delahoya has been beaten what 4 times already ??? more than that if you count the bull**** decisions he got ... no one seems to care though... shane mosley beat delahoya twice and he did not get the credit he deserved for raping Delahoya twice. BUT Mayweather is about to go down in history as one of the best EVER if he beats a guy who has already lost 4 + times ... why does this win count for so much ??? everybody has moved up and fought tougher opponents ...
              and then how is he going to retire after this ??? what the hell does beating Delahoya prove ??? NOTHING ... we already know Delahoya can lose ... If mayweather retires without fighting Mosley or Winky or hell maybe even Taylor ...then he is nothing but a ***** who took the easy way out...

              If mayweather fought jermain taylor and lost a close decision , he would get more respect than he would winning against Delahoya.,.. I garuntee you ... It pisses me off that Mayweather will go down in history because he beat Delahoya... the guy who lost a **** load of times ...
              at least you made this argument before the fight, not afterwards, because you would have proven had you made this argument after the fight, what me mayweather90, black jesus, and more have been talking about, excuses for de lah hoya. he was too old anyway, he has losses, he was way past his prime, yada yada yada yada. but, many on this forum claim that oscar will beat floyd anyway, of course, they don't really know what they're talking about, but, nonetheless, they still make those claims. now, i agree floyd has more to lose than oscar does, he's in his prime imo, and he is regarded as the best, which he undoubtedely is. if oscar loses, he lost to a fighter who was overall a better fighter than he was, which is true also.

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              • Slotff
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                #47
                Originally posted by platinumknuckle
                listen to my argument....


                everyone started out at a lighter weight and then moved up... mayweather took the longest to move up... Delahoya has been beaten what 4 times already ??? more than that if you count the bull**** decisions he got ... no one seems to care though... shane mosley beat delahoya twice and he did not get the credit he deserved for raping Delahoya twice. BUT Mayweather is about to go down in history as one of the best EVER if he beats a guy who has already lost 4 + times ... why does this win count for so much ??? everybody has moved up and fought tougher opponents ...
                and then how is he going to retire after this ??? what the hell does beating Delahoya prove ??? NOTHING ... we already know Delahoya can lose ... If mayweather retires without fighting Mosley or Winky or hell maybe even Taylor ...then he is nothing but a ***** who took the easy way out...

                If mayweather fought jermain taylor and lost a close decision , he would get more respect than he would winning against Delahoya.,.. I garuntee you ... It pisses me off that Mayweather will go down in history because he beat Delahoya... the guy who lost a **** load of times ...

                That is some real bull****. Mosley never "****d" de la Hoya. Three of De La Hoya's losses are controversial. And losing four times in de la Hoya's case matters nothing. Because he has beat:

                Arturo Gatti
                Fernando Vargas
                Ricardo Mayorga
                Yory Boy Campas
                Pernell Whitaker
                Ike Quartey
                Javier Castillejo
                Oba Carr
                Julio Cesar Chavez
                Hector Camacho
                Jesse James Leija
                Jorge Paez
                Miguel Gonzalez
                Derrell Coley
                Felix Sturm
                Felix Trinidad*
                Shane Mosley*

                *Should be on that list.


                Now with a resume like that, who can say anything. Certainly not you. It is very arguable that de la Hoya has only ever lost once, and that was an undeniable knockout loss to Bernard Hopkins, in a fight in which de la Hoya was doing very well. If Floyd beats him (which I see to be highly improbable) he will be a legend.

                So shut up.

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                • zubi29
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                  #48
                  everyone knocks floyd and i dno why..maybe because people like to hate who is on top or who is the best..it could be because of his trash talking or the way he is but in reality you have to give it to floyd he is a great fighter..his speed, defense and smarts in the ring are the reason why he is 37-0.. i think that floyd will beat de la hoya, it might not be easy but the way floyd is able to make adjustments in the ring is the reason he will get the W..like him or hate him floyd is a great fighter and i think top 3 fighter ever.

                  bring the title home with ya floyd

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                  • !! $iN
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Slotff
                    That is some real bull****. Mosley never "****d" de la Hoya. Three of De La Hoya's losses are controversial. And losing four times in de la Hoya's case matters nothing. Because he has beat:

                    Arturo Gatti
                    Fernando Vargas
                    Ricardo Mayorga
                    Yory Boy Campas
                    Pernell Whitaker
                    Ike Quartey
                    Javier Castillejo
                    Oba Carr
                    Julio Cesar Chavez
                    Hector Camacho
                    Jesse James Leija
                    Jorge Paez
                    Miguel Gonzalez
                    Derrell Coley
                    Felix Sturm
                    Felix Trinidad*
                    Shane Mosley*

                    *Should be on that list.


                    Now with a resume like that, who can say anything. Certainly not you. It is very arguable that de la Hoya has only ever lost once, and that was an undeniable knockout loss to Bernard Hopkins, in a fight in which de la Hoya was doing very well. If Floyd beats him (which I see to be highly improbable) he will be a legend.

                    So shut up.
                    If you are going to list the fights you think he "should" have won, you should also put some sort of asterisk to the one she "should" have lost like Sturm, Quartey, and Whitaker...

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                    • cortdawg25
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by platinumknuckle
                      lol ... cortdawg??? lol ...ahahahahahahaha... i speak the truth son, do not get mad because I do...


                      now those are facts ...
                      Foreal cuz, that's real gay. Talk boxing baby!!

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