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  • niceguy45
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    #121
    margarito is a man taking on williams, why didn't floyd took margarito ?
    he was offered 8 mil the same he is making now.....but why did he chose oscar, margarito is far more dangerous than oscar is

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    • Technical_Skill
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      #122
      Originally posted by niceguy45
      margarito is far more dangerous than oscar is

      Yup, he so dangerous he got beat by Rodney Jones.

      lol

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      • niceguy45
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        #123
        Originally posted by Technical_Skill
        Yup, he so dangerous he got beat by Rodney Jones.

        lol
        lol you know what i mean.....too dangerous for floyd and that was long ago so he is more expereienced now

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        • squealpiggy
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          #124
          I'm still of the opinion that legendary status is something which transcends who beats who. Some legends are made in the ring, some are made elsewhere. Going back to my previous example, Jim Braddock won the Heavyweight Championship of the World in the ring. Be he didn't become a legend by defeating Baer. He became a legend by beating Corn Giffin, John Henry Lewis and Art Laskey and getting in the ring with Max at a time when he was considered washed up.

          Legends transcend the expected and this I think excludes Mayweather from becoming a legend. Everyone expects Mayweather to be prepared. Everyone expects him to not take too many risks in the ring. And everyone expects him to win. And he does exactly as we expect every time. His near loss against Castillo changed his attitude I think from a boxer-fighter to a safety first technician. Peers such as Ray Leonard took risks, tried to slug as well as box even in completely unwise situations (such as against Duran in the first fight) and also had an episode of fall and redemption with his ******* addiction. Tyson is legendary but not as a hero. He was the unstoppable monster who left people for dead in the ring, and Buster Douglas had his moment of legend by vanquishing him. Ali was bombastic and outspoken, Dempsey was colourful, Duran was an everyman out of the ropes but a monster within them, the overwhelming majority of fighters you would describe as legends were either colourful personalities or were in extraordinary circumstances. Mayweather I don't think fulfills either of these categories, and no amount of amateurish jibes and buckle-my-shoes is going to change that.

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          • El Jesus
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            #125
            Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
            Legends are Born Of Courage and Heroisim
            Even in defeat....

            Now ask yourself... Does that sound Like Floyd Mayweather???
            Pernell Whitaker was an ******* his whole career. And even worse when he lost. Thats a heap of bull****.

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            • Slotff
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              #126
              Mayweather isn't a legend.

              Ali is a legend because the people loved him so much, and because of the fact that he ducked the draft. The closest thing Mayweather has done to evading a war is duck Antonio Margarito.

              My 10 cents.

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              • El Jesus
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                #127
                Originally posted by $iN
                By your logic, Sugar Ray Robinson is not a legend since he quit on his stool against Joey Maxim...

                By your logic, Roberto Duran is not a legend for quitting against Sugar Ray Leonard...
                Originally posted by niceguy45
                on paper he looks like the best in the world, but when you have fans booing around the middle of the fight, fans leaving because it's boring c'mon that's a champion ? when you got commentators talking on a totally different subject while floyd is fighting for like half of the fight, same old story a real boring fight If you ask me, im not questioning his skills he has great skills,
                like larry it's just a wonderful display of boxing skills, no drama, no herat of a champion....im not hating on floyd he is a b*tch......for floyd to earn my respect he has to beat dlh not by UD or SD by KO or TKO then mosley, margarito, cintron or williams

                Again, i return to Pernell Whitaker whos career mirrors PBF with PBF not getting robbed like he did. People never liked whitaker, people booed whitaker during, and after his fights, Outside of ******ia, nobody liked him, the press didnt like his additude, he wasnt humble, he was a complete ******* who had a skillset virtually unmatched at his time.

                When its all said and done, these same people who hated on whitaker when i was young now talk about how great he was, how untouchable he was in his prime, etc. It will be the same **** when floyd leaves, 15 years from now i will have to explain to my children how everyone hated mayweather like (insert new big name fighter whos hated) is hated in 2022.

                You people look for the most foolish reasons as to why someone isnt a legend, the bottom line, Floyd isnt a legend because you dont ****ing like him as a person.

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Slotff
                  Mayweather isn't a legend.

                  Ali is a legend because the people loved him so much, and because of the fact that he ducked the draft. The closest thing Mayweather has done to evading a war is duck Antonio Margarito.

                  My 10 cents.
                  Nah, this one aint worth 10 cents. lol.


                  All this stuff about how Ali was loved is bull****, at the time he was hated by white people, they even supported Sonny Liston (who they absolutely despised over Ali) In civil rights america nothing was worse than a black person who was politically vocal.

                  It was only years later, when the US began to accept him

                  and one more time, just to top it off.

                  Antonio Margartio got beat twice by Daniel Santos and beat by Rodney Jones, aint no way he could beat PBF.

                  How is Mayweather Fighting De La Hoya over Margarito ducking him?

                  lol.

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                  • El Jesus
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by realheavyhands
                    no the fighters i mentioned skipped a whole division ... now that p4p in my book... dont get cought up in the records styles make fights..floyd should have 1 loss
                    thats ****ing ******, if he skipped a division youd say he ducked the best from whatever divisions he skipped. You would twist it in a way to discredit him just as others are doing now, the bottom line is Floyd is a loser in the minds of people who already dont like him, period.

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                    • !! $iN
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Black Jesus
                      Again, i return to Pernell Whitaker whos career mirrors PBF with PBF not getting robbed like he did. People never liked whitaker, people booed whitaker during, and after his fights, Outside of ******ia, nobody liked him, the press didnt like his additude, he wasnt humble, he was a complete ******* who had a skillset virtually unmatched at his time.

                      When its all said and done, these same people who hated on whitaker when i was young now talk about how great he was, how untouchable he was in his prime, etc. It will be the same **** when floyd leaves, 15 years from now i will have to explain to my children how everyone hated mayweather like (insert new big name fighter whos hated) is hated in 2022.

                      You people look for the most foolish reasons as to why someone isnt a legend, the bottom line, Floyd isnt a legend because you dont ****ing like him as a person.
                      Now that is the truth. People seem to forget how hated Whitaker was. The hate for Whitaker is the reason he didn't get close decisions in his favor against Chavez and DLH. Floyd is lucky he hasn't been screwed like that, yet...

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