Mayweather a legend?

[cortdawg25]

Yep but have you heard of weak divisions. They all have them at some point. The fact that Castillo is the best ever opponent for PBF shows to me the guys he beat in the lower weight divisions were a weak division at the time. He has a great resume without having beat a great champion. That aint hard to understand.



Ok he wasnt No1, but No2 or 3. What does it matter? You made it sound like Hatton wasnt supposed to beat...but just happened to beat anyold one.
By this i mean just because you are on paper better than Hatton dont mean anything when you have to fight Hatton.

hugh Grant, who currently has better opposition, a better resume than Floyd who started fighting professionally when he did?

[hugh grant]

Your opinion is your own,

i wonder do you think hatton is a great champion?

Who has he beat other than Tsyu?

Do You think beating Ben Tackie, Wilfredo Vilches and Mike 'No joke (but he is a joke) Steward makes you a contender to PBF?

I try always to think realisticly. I am not saying Hatton would beat PBF. Noone can say for sure what would happen. But the way i look at it is i think Hatton is better than Castillo. Castillo pushed PBF, so i think Hatton could push PBF even more. Quite a simple equation. I was never great at maths but that is quite an easy equation to come to.
So Hatton is certainly a contender to PBF. I want to see if my equation comes out right. I do think Hatton is a great champ and so do the so called experts who know more than me.

[Technical_Skill]

I try always to think realisticly. I am not saying Hatton would beat PBF. Noone can say for sure what would happen. But the way i look at it is i think Hatton is better than Castillo. Castillo pushed PBF, so i think Hatton could push PBF even more. Quite a simple equation. I was never great at maths but that is quite an easy equation to come to.
So Hatton is certainly a contender to PBF. I want to see if my equation comes out right. I do think Hatton is a great champ and so do the so called experts who know more than me.

I disgaree that Hatton is better than Castillo, but i cant castigate you for giving an honest opinion.

[hugh grant]

hugh Grant, who currently has better opposition, a better resume than Floyd who started fighting professionally when he did?

He has a great resume and i wont pretend i know enough boxers resumes to answer that question of who has a better resume than him.
I just think him being a 4 weight champ has to be taking into some kind of context. And that is who exactly did he beat to be a 4 weight champ? DLH is a 6 weight champ and has beaten better people. PBF is a legend....so is DLH even more of one?
Your only as good as the person you beat in this sport imo. What does it matter that PBF can win titles in 4 weights and beat Castillo on points. When someone like Hatton can beat Castillo in the 3rd round by ko. And Castillo goes on to say Hatton would beat PBF in his opinion and is better than PBF. Ok im getting ahead of myself right now. But im always asking questions of boxers.....not just PBF.

[realheavyhands]

What?

Floyd Moved up to 135 ( a whole division) to fight the champ in Castillo, In his first fight.

lol

At 147 he beats the last 2 Linear Champs

At 130 and 135 he cleaned up and beat everyone of note

At 140, Hatton didnt wanna fight, nothing he could do about that.

Moesly alot more of Legend than PBF? lol, does that make Vernon Forrest a legend for beating the **** out of Moesly first time round?

lol

no the fighters i mentioned skipped a whole division ... now that p4p in my book... dont get cought up in the records styles make fights..floyd should have 1 loss

[niceguy45]

Cos Floyd is ducking these guys, he's so scared of them he moved up to 154 (where Margarito got his ass beat) and fights Oscar De La Hoya in his first fight at 154.

Of course Margarito and Cintron are more Dangerous than a 6 weight World champ like De La Hoya, not to mention the legendary status beating those guys would give him.

Please, just re-read what you are wrting.

lol.

look man my point here is that mayweather is not a legend and will not be a legend unless he step up his game and face better opponents and it's a good start w/DLH

[hugh grant]

I disgaree that Hatton is better than Castillo, but i cant castigate you for giving an honest opinion.

I think Hatton is. I maybe wrong. I need Castillo to prove that i am wrong though when they fight though. If Castillo should beat Hatton it would be a minor upset in my eyes. And i will be the first to admit i was wrong.

[Technical_Skill]

no the fighters i mentioned skipped a whole division ... now that p4p in my book... dont get cought up in the records styles make fights..floyd should have 1 loss

Right, Pound 4 Pound means Skills Regardless of Weight, if weight did not determine the attributes of a fighter, who would win.

Therefore most people would agree PBF is p4p the best in the world, if weight wasnt an issue, and did not determine the attributes of him and his opponent, he would beat anyone in Boxing.

The castillo thing has been done to death, Castillo got caned in the rematch and the problem was solved.

P4P isnt judged on wether you skip a divison or not, and moesly got murdered by Vernon Forrest twice, so i dont know how moesly is so much more deserving of legendary status than PBF.

[cortdawg25]

He has a great resume and i wont pretend i know enough boxers resumes to answer that question of who has a better resume than him.
I just think him being a 4 weight champ has to be taking into some kind of context. And that is who exactly did he beat to be a 4 weight champ? DLH is a 6 weight champ and has beaten better people. PBF is a legend....so is DLH even more of one?
Your only as good as the person you beat in this sport imo. What does it matter that PBF can win titles in 4 weights and beat Castillo on points. When someone like Hatton can beat Castillo in the 3rd round by ko. And Castillo goes on to say Hatton would beat PBF in his opinion and is better than PBF. Ok im getting ahead of myself right now. But im always asking questions of boxers.....not just PBF.

The only person Oscar beat that was really better than any of Floyd's wins is whitaker and a lot of people don't think he won that. And he didn't fight him again to show otherwise neither. And don't jump ahead of yourself, hatton very well may be defeated by Castillo. and who did Oscar fight to be 6 time champ, Was he the man in all those divisions? You might want to put that in context cause your only as good as the champion you beat right

[niceguy45]

I disgaree that Hatton is better than Castillo, but i cant castigate you for giving an honest opinion.

and also it would help mayweather worships his opponents so that way he gets more credit when he beats instead of trash talkin' em' to the ground,
dlh would get more credit if he beats mayweather, because everyone is on mayweather's balls that he is a legend and that he is better than SRR & SRL