Hatton is Not a P4P Level Figher

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    #41
    Hatton is not in my top ten list, but he's top 15 material.



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    • !! $iN
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      #42
      Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
      I dont disagree with you..I just dont like you very much and I admit IT.. I was Flaming.. and I got what I wanted .. you being ****** enough to respond..

      See I just thought for once you had something good to say and even backed it up logic.. Like so many other members of this forum have.. ONLY to have YOU go ****ing snakey on them with the PWNAGE.. and maybe you can see how it feels for once you ****ing troll..
      I should have just made a post regarding some irrelevant bull**** Hatton does outside the ring and use that as my reason to hate everything about him. That's all you ever seem to do with Mayweather, but you like to consider that logic...

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      • bigtime9
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        #43
        I should have just made a post regarding some irrelevant bull**** Hatton does outside the ring and use that as my reason to hate everything about him. That's all you ever seem to do with Mayweather, but you like to consider that logic...
        totally

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        • hugh grant
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          #44
          The thing is Hatton doesnt stay at one weight and be a champ. He is a 2 weight champ. If he wanted he might even get down to lightweight and be a 3 weight champ if that is the kind of thing he wanted to prove and something he didnt mind doing.
          And he would have been better off doing it earlier in his career as i am sure he could have got to the weight before. But beating great opponents is what he eventually wants to be remembered for and not winning in so many weights.
          Last edited by hugh grant; 03-08-2007, 07:28 AM.

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          • squealpiggy
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            #45
            Pound for Pound has never meant an ability to move between weight divisions. It is an entirely subjective argument about whether or not a fighter, if weight were not a factor, would be able to beat other fighters. If weight were not a factor then Hatton would be up there with a chance of beating anyone. His style, tenacity and energy are the things in his locker than can overwhelm his performance.

            And saying "Besides the best win on his record he hasn't had any wins on his record that are as good as the best win on his record" is a complete non-argument.

            I think Hatton will move up to 147 for select fights, namely Cotto and Mayweather, with a possibility of De La Hoya for the immense payday.

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            • hugh grant
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              #46
              Originally posted by squealpiggy

              And saying "Besides the best win on his record he hasn't had any wins on his record that are as good as the best win on his record" is a complete non-argument.
              I know those kind of comments i have heard a few times now and i have let them get away with it because i couldnt be bothered to respond. But i will now if i come across it.
              Like some people try and say things like, if you take Kostya, Collazo etc off Hattons CV....Cottos record would be as good as Hattons.

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              • aps214
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                #47
                Originally posted by $iN
                Going life and death with Luis Collazo, a guy that a 35-year-old Mosley completely outclassed, showed the world that Hatton just isn't a world class fighter. That's why he will never step foot again at 147. He'll retire when he can't make 140 anymore...

                Any P4P level fighter should be able to handle moving up one division without a problem. Mayweather has done it many times. Pacquiao has done it many times. Winky had no problem moving up to middleweight and arguably beating Jermain Taylor. Barrera has moved up three divisions. Hopkins even skipped a division at 41 and dominated Tarver. Just over the weekend, Marquez moved up to 122 and beat the RING champion there. The list goes on and on.

                If Hatton is a world class, P4P level figher, why did he struggle mightily with a fringe contender like Collazo? Why did he decide not to stick around welterweight and prepare his body properly for the division? Why did Hatton run back to 140 when there are absolutely zero meaningful fights to be made there?



                What a wonderfully accurate post. It won't matter though. You can't bring truth to Hatton's blind, nuthugger fans..many of whom also have a hard on for Eubank and have the audacity to say that he would have beaten a prime RJJ.. Savages..

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                • squealpiggy
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                  #48
                  What a wonderfully accurate post. It won't matter though. You can't bring truth to Hatton's blind, nuthugger fans
                  I don't understand how you think that this makes a sensible argument. Surely calling people names is the first step towards cognitive surrender. Truth is that Hatton has beaten everyone he's fought including Collazo. Hatton's fans by and large are hoping for some great fights against big names and a good showing, win or lose. It beggars belief how so many people hate Hatton to such a degree they make excuses against his record. I mean I can't stand Mayweather's mouth and I think he has been somewhat protected until now at 140 and up but I'm not about to deny that he has talent. Perhaps overcoming petty tribalism when it comes to your favourite fighters is a part of growing up.

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                  • monkeyboy
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                    #49
                    Christ, why is it I always end up defending Hatton when I'm not a particularly big fan of his?
                    Why 'run' back down to 140lbs? Because it's where he fights best and is comfortable.
                    That's like saying Cotto 'ran' up to 147lbs.
                    Regardless of fights, Cotto could not stay at 140lbs. Lucky for Cotto (who I admire) there is a rich division at 147. If 147 was **** he would STILL BE 147lbs. Comprende?
                    Cotto is forced by his body to be 147lbs.
                    Hatton's body means he fights at his best at 140lbs.

                    Simple. Some fighters stay at a weight. Some develop and change weights. Hatton is probably somewhere on the outskirts of top 10 p4p purely because he is the man at 140lbs. Anyone at 140lbs will struggle with him. PBF is one of the few who can beat him there. Staying there may not elevate him to stellar greatness but he is a man to beat. He is naming good names (Castillo definite and Cotto is now being bandied) and will continue to show his colors as he continues. Win, lose, struggle or dominate, the future fights will continue to define him. He certainly isn't a 'great' yet but not many are right now in my opinion.

                    You armchair warriors should all 'struggle' so badly and 'run' as pathetically as Hatton.

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                    • squealpiggy
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                      #50
                      It's all a bit depressing really that people have to align themselves with one fighter and trash talk all that fighters' rivals. Whatever happened to being a fan of boxing?

                      For someone who dislikes Hatton, $in is sure obsessed with him, and while his post was a little better organised than the usual dross it was still the same tired non-arguments: Struggled against Collazo. "Ran" back down to 140. Never fought anyone decent apart from Kostya Tszyu. BTW Kostya was past it.

                      Boring.

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