Hatton is Not a P4P Level Figher

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  • Ramamaiden
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    #31
    i dont like hatton. i have only seen the urango fight and didnt like his fighting style. but he is a champion and at jr. welter the best, so that makes him deserves to be p4p, at least on numbers and stuff he does.
    but for me he is a good boxer but overrated.

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    • Welter_Skelter
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      #32
      Originally posted by $iN
      Glad to see you have nothing to say in the face of facts...
      I dont disagree with you..I just dont like you very much and I admit IT.. I was Flaming.. and I got what I wanted .. you being ****** enough to respond..

      See I just thought for once you had something good to say and even backed it up logic.. Like so many other members of this forum have.. ONLY to have YOU go ****ing snakey on them with the PWNAGE.. and maybe you can see how it feels for once you ****ing troll..

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      • Benny Leonard
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        #33
        Hatton might not be a "Great" fighter, but he is very good.

        He trains hard, fights hard, and does his best with what he has.

        Yeah, I don't like his huggy-bear style either, but it is up to his opponent to expose that style. Maybe Tszyu could of done it if he was younger or had been more active, but he lost, so credit to Hatton for doing what he had to do. What was he supposed to do, "box" and fight a man that could put him into the ground? No, he did what he needed to do to win. I don't like it, but hey, I am not the one going in there having to take punches.

        That said, Hatton needs to step up and fight better opponents. I think him fighting Castillo is OK, but Castillo is not the same fighter.
        A better fight would be with Cotto, Shane, or someone else. Yes, I know, Shane isn't in his prime either, but he would whoop Castillo.

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        • Benny Leonard
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          #34
          Originally posted by Tyrone316
          Is this the same Kostya Tszyu who was lb4lb #1 according to many? The same Kostya Tszyu who nobody gave Hatton a chance against? The same Kostya Tszyu who said at the pre-fight press conference "Kostya Tszyu 35 would beat Kostya Tszyu 25, I would destroy myself"?

          That was probably the greatest win in the history of British Boxing.
          Tszyu was on the decline once he got into his 30's.

          Tszyu was the underdog vs. Sharmba Mitchell, just remember that. It was his blowout victory over Mitchell that got people all hyped up and stuck in the fog. Mithcell was scared before the bell even rang. Once he got tagged, it was over.
          The fight also was so short, it didn't test Tszyu's stamina at all.

          Anybody that is 35, coming off a long layoff from two serious injuries, didn't look that good in his fight with Jesse James, etc., is not a prime fighter.

          Many times I have heard a fighter that is past his prime say, "I am in the best shape of my life, I would beat a younger version of myself"; it's all bull**** to hype himself up and sell the fight.

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          • Tyrone316
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            #35
            Originally posted by $iN
            Yeah, I'm sure Duran was just outgrowing division after division and found himself fighting at 168 winning many titles along the way. He was James Toney before there was James Toney.

            Duran and Hatton have the exact same frame. The only difference is Duran was a skilled fighter, Hatton is not...
            Duran and Hatton have the exact same frame? Dude, your just being silly.

            Hatton is the most skilled British fighter in history, and NOBODY will beat him at 140lbs. Infact, the only person I'd pick him over Hatton at 140 is Duran.

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            • Tyrone316
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              #36
              Originally posted by ThaHorseman
              Mayweather outgrew 140? The same guy who walks around at 150? The same guy who fought at WW weighing 145/146? The same guy who eats cheeseburgers at pre-fight interviews because he can? Argue your point, but don't make **** up. If Floyd had taken the "Hatton" route, he'd be fighting at 135 and you'd still think he was too small to win at a higher weight. and you're arguing that Hatton, a guy who gets up to 180 hasn't outgrown 140?
              Well if Mayweather didn't out-grow 140, then Hatton-Mayweather can be made at 140 this year, right? Let's hope so.

              Yes, Hatton puts on 30lbs of fat between fights. 30lbs of fat that can be shifted in two weeks of training.

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              • brently1979
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                #37
                Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                Tszyu was on the decline once he got into his 30's.

                Tszyu was the underdog vs. Sharmba Mitchell, just remember that. It was his blowout victory over Mitchell that got people all hyped up and stuck in the fog. Mithcell was scared before the bell even rang. Once he got tagged, it was over.
                The fight also was so short, it didn't test Tszyu's stamina at all.

                Anybody that is 35, coming off a long layoff from two serious injuries, didn't look that good in his fight with Jesse James, etc., is not a prime fighter.

                Many times I have heard a fighter that is past his prime say, "I am in the best shape of my life, I would beat a younger version of myself"; it's all bull**** to hype himself up and sell the fight.
                Good to hear they're people on this site who can see things for that they actually are: The Truth.

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                • ELPacman
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                  #38
                  I said something similar to what this guy typed up in the main post. I said, P4P means your able to go up and down the scales beating everyone's ass with no problem. In a quick view of it anyway. So now Ricky goes up, get's his ass handed to him though doesn't lose it and goes back down. I think that excludes him for life from ever being talked with P4P. I mean it sucks if he beats a P4P fighter in that 1 weight class and then is talked about being P4P amazing when he's only sticking to 1 weight class.

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                  • -Hyperion-
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Tyrone316
                    Well if Mayweather didn't out-grow 140, then Hatton-Mayweather can be made at 140 this year, right? Let's hope so.

                    Yes, Hatton puts on 30lbs of fat between fights. 30lbs of fat that can be shifted in two weeks of training.

                    yeah it could, but why give hatton the advantage when you are more known and more important than him, it should be made at 147, thats floyds weightclass now...
                    Last edited by -Hyperion-; 03-07-2007, 09:59 PM.

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                    • ThaHorseman
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tyrone316
                      Well if Mayweather didn't out-grow 140, then Hatton-Mayweather can be made at 140 this year, right? Let's hope so.

                      Yes, Hatton puts on 30lbs of fat between fights. 30lbs of fat that can be shifted in two weeks of training.
                      I doubt it. In case you haven't noticed Floyd has moved on to fighting much bigger names in divisions he should have never reached. Meanwhile, your boy Hatton is still fighting at 140 against the Urango's of the world. There is no way Floyd goes back down to 140, PERIOD. The big fights are at 147 and everyone seems to know it except Hatton.

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