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  • hugh grant
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    #141
    No we are realistic. We are not saying Hatton would win for sure. We are saying it would be entertaining and that is why we watch fights. Saying PBF woiuld beat Hatton is fine. But i would rather watch the fight rather than read what people think would happen. Because watching it is more entertaining.
    Hatton has beaten everyone so he cant telegraph that much can he. Since your on the subject of Castillo. Castillo has lost how many times and Hatton hasnt lost.
    PBF has been given credit for beatin g people in the past who had unbeaten records and yet Hatton has had 42 fights and is still unbeaten. PBF is damn good but there are boxers who are also good and people want to see if they are as good as PBF.

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    • me2007
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      #142
      Which Hatton fan said he would beat Mayweather? I haven`t seen a post, but i`d like to see who and why they think this.

      Mayweather could beat Hatton in my opinion, Hatton is too easy to hit.

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      • tredh
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        #143
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        No we are realistic. We are not saying Hatton would win for sure. We are saying it would be entertaining and that is why we watch fights. Saying PBF woiuld beat Hatton is fine. But i would rather watch the fight rather than read what people think would happen. Because watching it is more entertaining.
        Hatton has beaten everyone so he cant telegraph that much can he. Since your on the subject of Castillo. Castillo has lost how many times and Hatton hasnt lost.
        PBF has been given credit for beatin g people in the past who had unbeaten records and yet Hatton has had 42 fights and is still unbeaten. PBF is damn good but there are boxers who are also good and people want to see if they are as good as PBF.
        In my first post I gave Hatton credit for being undefeated. I don't feel it would be entertaining and I maybe wrong but I doubt it. You are right it would be better to see the fight happen instead of talking about it. Just because Castillo has lost doesn't mean in his best days he wasn't better than Hatton. That could mean he has fought better competition than Hatton which Castillo has.

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          #144
          Originally posted by tredh
          In my first post I gave Hatton credit for being undefeated. I don't feel it would be entertaining and I maybe wrong but I doubt it. You are right it would be better to see the fight happen instead of talking about it. Just because Castillo has lost doesn't mean in his best days he wasn't better than Hatton. That could mean he has fought better competition than Hatton which Castillo has.
          This is just a very generally made statement. Hes lost like 5 times and they were all better than Hatton, when Hatton has beaten Kostya. It just shows to me that although Castillo is good, Hatton is harder to beat. Just like PBF is. That is why they are top 10 boxers because whatever it is that they do, they get the job done against whoever it happens to be.

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            #145
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            This is just a very generally made statement. Hes lost like 5 times and they were all better than Hatton, when Hatton has beaten Kostya. It just shows to me that although Castillo is good, Hatton is harder to beat. Just like PBF is. That is why they are top 10 boxers because whatever it is that they do, they get the job done against whoever it happens to be.
            Thats the only name fighter he has beaten in 42 fights thats not a good look. No I would not say everybody Castillo has lost to is better than Hatton that would make look like a fool which I'm not. I can agree on the bold because he is still undefeated regardless of the level of competition he has faced. But do not agree that he is a top ten boxer.

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              #146
              Originally posted by Franko
              It's obvious that Hatton doesn't jump through the weight divisions like other fighters! That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't world class though and that's the point i'm trying to make. Also, he is still yet to finish his career, and if he ever gets to face Mayweather i doubt that it would be at 140.
              If you are supposedly one of the 10 best fighters in the entire world, how can you not move up just one division, 7 pounds, and compete with the very best the division offers. I know welter is very deep and I wouldn't expect Hatton to beat the top 3 there, but a P4P level fighter should not struggle with a fringe contender like Collazo...

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                #147
                Are you seriously suggesting that one fight against a fighter in a certain weight class means that you cannot move up to that division.

                Lets look at the facts $in, i know you rarely do this, but let's try.

                Hatton moves up to 147lbs, beats Collazo(the WBA champ) and then moves back down to 140lbs to fight Urango and now Castillo.

                Mayweather struggled (and many say lost) the first fight against Castillo.
                Does that prevent Mayweather from moving up?

                Do you see how ridiculous your logic is?

                Hatton will have to move back up to Welterweight after this fight. Then when he gets knocked out in the first round against a nobody, you may just then have the right to take this view. But until then, you are just speculating with spurious reasoning.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by me2007
                  Are you seriously suggesting that one fight against a fighter in a certain weight class means that you cannot move up to that division.

                  Lets look at the facts $in, i know you rarely do this, but let's try.

                  Hatton moves up to 147lbs, beats Collazo(the WBA champ) and then moves back down to 140lbs to fight Urango and now Castillo.

                  Mayweather struggled (and many say lost) the first fight against Castillo.
                  Does that prevent Mayweather from moving up?

                  Do you see how ridiculous your logic is?

                  Hatton will have to move back up to Welterweight after this fight. Then when he gets knocked out in the first round against a nobody, you may just then have the right to take this view. But until then, you are just speculating with spurious reasoning.
                  Yes, let's look at the facts...

                  Did Mayweather go back to 130 after a close win over Castillo? No, he gave him an immediate rematch.

                  Did Hatton move back to 140 after a close win over Collazo? Yes. He said he would give him a rematch and he never did.

                  How do you like those facts?

                  If Hatton felt he could compete at welterweight and just need time to get his body ready for that division, then why didn't he stay? His mandatory was against Urkal (check the sig), so he had an easy fight next against a fighter who also moved up from 140. Instead, he chose to go back to 140 even though there were absolutely zero meaningful matches in the division at the time. He's lucky Castillo moved up.

                  Moving down would have made sense if there was a big fight that could be made at 140, but with Cotto and Mayweather abandoning the division he had no reason to move down unless he felt he couldn't compete at 147. His actions speak for themselves...

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                  • me2007
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                    #149
                    Castillo is a bigger name than Urkal. it makes more sense for Hatton to fight Castillo who got the better of Mayweather, than fighting some non entity like Urkal.

                    As i have stated previously, after the Castillo fight, he will have to move up to to WW.

                    While Floyd fought old man DLH and then retired before he had chance to fight a real opponent like Cotto or Mosely,

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by me2007
                      While Floyd fought old man DLH and then retired before he had chance to fight a real opponent like Cotto or Mosely,
                      Seriously, dude, its a real shame you cant appriciate a great boxer, in years to come you'll have people pretending they liked mayweather all along and how he was a class fighter, so one more time.

                      Cotto went to the gatti fight, didnt want none after that, he may wana fight in future, but i dont see him calling floyd out.

                      Mosley got called out by floyd about 2/3 times, mosley said his tooth was hurting, he didnt wanna fight.

                      If DLH is such a bum, how come many picked dlh to beat floyd?

                      Look at Sin's sig, the names are there for you to see.

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