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  • !! $iN
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    #151
    Originally posted by me2007
    Castillo is a bigger name than Urkal. it makes more sense for Hatton to fight Castillo who got the better of Mayweather, than fighting some non entity like Urkal.
    Last year, Castillo was preparing for a 3rd fight with Corrales. There was no guarantee that Castillo would go to 140. Hatton thought Corrales was going to go to 140 and Chico couldn't make the weight, so he skipped the entire division. If you look at the circumstances at that time, there was no reason for Hatton to move down to 140 unless he felt he just couldn't compete at 147. The best fights at 140 were Harris and Witter at the time and he hasn't made an effort to fight either of them. As I said, he's lucky Castillo moved up or he'd have no marquee opponent to fight...

    As i have stated previously, after the Castillo fight, he will have to move up to to WW.
    I'll have to save this quote when Hatton announces his next fight against someone like Paulie Malignaggi...

    While Floyd fought old man DLH and then retired before he had chance to fight a real opponent like Cotto or Mosely,
    Cotto didn't want it. Mosley's tooth still hurts...

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    • me2007
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      #152
      If Castillo didn`t go to 140, then clearly Hatton would be at WW.

      How do you know Cotto didn`t want to fight Mayweather, or Mosely for that matter. not all fighters make a living out of their mouths like feather-fister Mayweather.

      I'd rather fighters do their talking with their fists in the ring.

      Mayweather just doesn't back up his pre fight mouth with any good performances.

      He hasn`t looked good in any fights back to Gatti, who is about as shot as someone can be and still have a license to fight.

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #153
        Originally posted by me2007
        If Castillo didn`t go to 140, then clearly Hatton would be at WW.

        How do you know Cotto didn`t want to fight Mayweather, or Mosely for that matter. not all fighters make a living out of their mouths like feather-fister Mayweather.

        I'd rather fighters do their talking with their fists in the ring.

        Mayweather just doesn't back up his pre fight mouth with any good performances.

        He hasn`t looked good in any fights back to Gatti, who is about as shot as someone can be and still have a license to fight.
        Nah, he didnt look good weighing 148 pounds and outboxing a guy who weighed nearly a stone heavier, a guy who people were picking to knock him out.



        Here is the reality, a welterweight won the Junior Middleweight world title, if thats not great i dont know what is.

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        • !! $iN
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          #154
          Originally posted by me2007
          If Castillo didn`t go to 140, then clearly Hatton would be at WW.
          How do you know Castillo was going to go to 140? How do you know he will go to 147 in his next fight?

          How do you know Cotto didn`t want to fight Mayweather, or Mosely for that matter. not all fighters make a living out of their mouths like feather-fister Mayweather.
          Cotto is an Arum fighter. Arum doesn't like Mayweather since he left Top Rank. So why would Arum feed Cotto to the best fighter in the world?

          Mosley was offered the fight after the Vargas fight. He said his tooth hurt and he didn't want to cancel his vacation plans.

          You see how I can point to facts and use logic to prove my point? You have nothing to back up that Hatton knew Castillo was moving up (which happened a year after Hatton came back to 140) and you have nothing to prove Hatton will go back to welter in his next fight...

          I'd rather fighters do their talking with their fists in the ring.

          Mayweather just doesn't back up his pre fight mouth with any good performances.

          He hasn`t looked good in any fights back to Gatti, who is about as shot as someone can be and still have a license to fight.
          I would love to see any fighter knocking out opponents in his 4th or 5th division...

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            #155
            Originally posted by $iN
            How do you know Castillo was going to go to 140? How do you know he will go to 147 in his next fight?
            There are no other marketable fights at 140. Hatton has said he wants to fight MW. Obviously he will move up after Castillo if he wins.


            Cotto is an Arum fighter. Arum doesn't like Mayweather since he left Top Rank. So why would Arum feed Cotto to the best fighter in the world?
            You mean why would Mayweather fight someone who isn`t washed up?

            Mosley was offered the fight after the Vargas fight. He said his tooth hurt and he didn't want to cancel his vacation plans.
            Where is your source for this? Or is this more heresay and conjecture on your part.

            You see how I can point to facts and use logic to prove my point?
            Not really no.

            I would love to see any fighter knocking out opponents in his 4th or 5th division...
            Try looking at DLH knocking out Mayorga at 154.

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              #156
              Originally posted by $iN
              If you are supposedly one of the 10 best fighters in the entire world, how can you not move up just one division, 7 pounds, and compete with the very best the division offers. I know welter is very deep and I wouldn't expect Hatton to beat the top 3 there, but a P4P level fighter should not struggle with a fringe contender like Collazo...
              Too simplistic view. Just because he struggled with Collazo doesnt mean to say he would struggle with Cotto or whoever else. He could struggle with Collazo and knock Cotto out in 1 round. Not likely i agree, but you cant use the Collazo fight for everything.

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                #157
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Too simplistic view. Just because he struggled with Collazo doesnt mean to say he would struggle with Cotto or whoever else. He could struggle with Collazo and knock Cotto out in 1 round. Not likely i agree, but you cant use the Collazo fight for everything.
                Agreed, cotto isnt as slick as Luis, it would be a different fight.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                  Agreed, cotto isnt as slick as Luis, it would be a different fight.
                  True, so how come Sin can say if Hatton is a top ten fighter how come he cant step up one division and compete with the best the division has to offer. How does Sin know he cant competer with Cotto and Co when he hasnt fought them? Hes assuming he cant compete with Cotto and that aint noway to base your argument.

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                  • Technical_Skill
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    True, so how come Sin can say if Hatton is a top ten fighter how come he cant step up one division and compete with the best the division has to offer.
                    Because $IN has his own point of view, just like you have yours.
                    Last edited by Technical_Skill; 06-06-2007, 01:45 PM.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                      Because $IN has his own point of view, just like you have yours.
                      He has his point of view but a few have already pointed out to him, that his views are too simplistic sometimes. Me2oo7 pointed out the fact that PBF struggled at 130 with Castillo, so who would have fought that PBF could compete at 154 with a decent boxer in DLH?
                      When PBF struggled with Castillo, people could so easily have moaned, how can anyone say he is a top p4p if he struggles with Castillo and that noway could he box a 147lb guy?
                      Hatton might have had an off day, and he probably did! It happens in boxing.

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