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  • #71
    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

    If it isn't asking too much for you to post your faves
    Sure, here are a few, enjoy;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-KEtNu1z3g = Carmen Basilio vs Kid Gavilan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeKCqU2YVjc = Sugar Ray Robinson vs Bobo Olsen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n10x4HqImU = George Benton vs Rubin Carter

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkpLlqtsnUk = Willie Pestrano highlight

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oA7MG9Ttu0 = Ike Williams
     
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    • #72
      I have posted countless, alternatively you could just as easily go on Youtube and type in their name followed by vs and loads of their fights will pop up.

      We are in an era where Leigh Wood is #1 in his division.
      Eubank Jr #1 and Liam Smith ranked #2..
      Fighters like Tim Tyszu arguably being the #1 in his division

      If anything we've gone back to the friggin' stone age.

      There are loads of ATGs that was essentially watered down clones of Sugar Ray, copied his style and moniker and was quite clearly inferior and haven't half the resume or accolades. Yet nobody questions them.
      His footwork, skill, speed, power, technique is clear as day and still clear when grossly out of shape and well past it and well into his forties.


      This him past prime and not even at his best weight
       

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        • #74
          The HW division is a bit different I agree. For me it didn't really evolve until Floyd Patterson in the 50s and even then it left a lot to be desired but that isn't to say there hasn't been some truly awful HW champions since or during modern times.

          Bruce Seldon
          Valuev
          Spinks
          Wasn't John Ruiz like a 3x champ?
          Charles Martin
          & so on..

          The division has had some terrible eras and horrendous world champions in particular during those timeframes.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
            I have posted countless, alternatively you could just as easily go on Youtube and type in their name followed by vs and loads of their fights will pop up.

            We are in an era where Leigh Wood is #1 in his division.
            Eubank Jr #1 and Liam Smith ranked #2..
            Fighters like Tim Tyszu arguably being the #1 in his division

            If anything we've gone back to the friggin' stone age.

            There are loads of ATGs that was essentially watered down clones of Sugar Ray, copied his style and moniker and was quite clearly inferior and haven't half the resume or accolades. Yet nobody questions them.
            His footwork, skill, speed, power, technique is clear as day and still clear when grossly out of shape and well past it and well into his forties.


            This him past prime and not even at his best weight
            despite being his best, he still wasn't as advanced as the average amateur in the 70s and 80s in the same class. What is your point? I already destroyed you for lying to him, you crazy person. You like exposing yourself, huh?
            Last edited by Ascended; 10-16-2023, 07:30 AM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
              The HW division is a bit different I agree. For me it didn't really evolve until Floyd Patterson in the 50s and even then it left a lot to be desired but that isn't to say there hasn't been some truly awful HW champions since or during modern times.

              Bruce Seldon
              Valuev
              Spinks
              Wasn't John Ruiz like a 3x champ?
              Charles Martin
              & so on..

              The division has had some terrible eras and horrendous world champions in particular during those timeframes.


              https://********/G-KEtNu1z3g?si=fWcIGF1vuLEEkjlj That's how he really fought, told you I could keep showing how fighters of an old era fought, not you're selected best moments that other lazy crazy idiots use to prove a point that doesn't exist stop posting highlights you crazy follower, Their missing stuff matches show, he looks like a novice and Carmen, in their angle use/tech/fluidity/timing/defense compared to 70s-90s in full matches
              Last edited by Ascended; 10-16-2023, 10:16 AM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                I have posted countless, alternatively you could just as easily go on Youtube and type in their name followed by vs and loads of their fights will pop up.

                We are in an era where Leigh Wood is #1 in his division.
                Eubank Jr #1 and Liam Smith ranked #2..
                Fighters like Tim Tyszu arguably being the #1 in his division

                If anything we've gone back to the friggin' stone age.

                There are loads of ATGs that was essentially watered down clones of Sugar Ray, copied his style and moniker and was quite clearly inferior and haven't half the resume or accolades. Yet nobody questions them.
                His footwork, skill, speed, power, technique is clear as day and still clear when grossly out of shape and well past it and well into his forties.


                This him past prime and not even at his best weight
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO3utZ6wCAE
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyoB2bl7z0A
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzMVXLzx59c
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpoz05nQ1vA
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCOXI7L6NI
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk3Q0Tie08
                Him at his best still looks like a 30s-40s fighter, yet you crazy idiots have said the quote for years. If we had more footage, we would be even more amazed. This looks still like a 30s-40s fighter, and in no way does he look close to even a amatuer 70s-90s fighter.

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                • #78
                  - - MonkeyMan evolving in ascendent…priceless!!!

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post

                    Sure, here are a few, enjoy;

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-KEtNu1z3g = Carmen Basilio vs Kid Gavilan

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeKCqU2YVjc = Sugar Ray Robinson vs Bobo Olsen

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n10x4HqImU = George Benton vs Rubin Carter

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkpLlqtsnUk = Willie Pestrano highlight

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oA7MG9Ttu0 = Ike Williams
                    Will definitely look these over. In your unbiased opinion, how would you rate the losers skill set and is their resume legit ?

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Ascended View Post

                      despite being his best, he still wasn't as advanced as the average amateur in the 70s and 80s in the same class. What is your point? I already destroyed you for lying to him, you crazy person. You like exposing yourself, huh?

                      Are you sure about that?

                      Here is some amateur boxing from the 70s far above 'average amateur' level. They're more advanced are they?
                      Plenty more on Youtube, 70s golden gloves.

                      And from the 80s at the very highest level, possibly the highest level there has ever been

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxQODh_HJY

                      What advancements exactly? A load of amateurish bouncing around on their toes?
                       

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