Sam Langford vs. Roy Jones JR

[dan_cov]

Will definitely look these over. In your unbiased opinion, how would you rate the losers skill set and is their resume legit ?

Which fight are you referring to?

[Ascended]

Are you sure about that?

Here is some amateur boxing from the 70s far above 'average amateur' level. They're more advanced are they?
Plenty more on Youtube, 70s golden gloves.

And from the 80s at the very highest level, possibly the highest level there has ever been

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxQODh_HJY

What advancements exactly? A load of amateurish bouncing around on their toes?

I know I told you twice to stop linking highlights as they don't work with i. Why do you keep doing that when it does you no good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxil4OkEtUk 80s no names

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RitgTiTvXc 19 years old

These guys were way more advanced in angle use, timing, fluid/defense/tech, you for a fact, can't make Ray in those prime videos as advanced or the people he fought as advanced.sam you can't either,you have no footage to go over this from semi or full rounds,you know you don't

[dan_cov]

Maybe we should have todays fighters fight under the same conditions.

Have them fight every other week regardless what injuries they had
No training camps
Same day weigh ins forcing them to fight at their natural weight classes
Having to fight everyone being unable to cherrypick and avoid certain opponents and styles
Hundreds of fights and fighting well into their 40s
No steroids or PEDs
No access to supplements
15 rounds
Fighting in all weather conditions
Wearing heavy leather boots

Lets see how advanced they and training/nutrition really is because its all a load of absolute rubbish as far as I am concerned.
Advances in nutrition and all this, what absolute rubbish all your food is full of synthetic cr4p and injected with hormones, water, dyes and God knows what. Grown in a lab. Their training consists of squats and typing on Twitter with a light padwork session at night.

The sports on its a55.
No real teachers, the fighters are soft, pampered b**** who take no risks and fight twice a year max. Train when they feel like it.

You have a Youtuber dabbling in boxing for a few years bouncing up and down doing star jumps and lunging in from 8ft away with an overhand right and clinching over and over and over and he is on even terms with one of todays supposed boxers. Zero basics just awful yet this boxer who has been doing it supposedly for 20yrs and has 20lbs on him can't do anything with him. Should tell anyone all they need to know about where this sports heading.

These fighters of today can't box or fight, they're ****!

No fundamentals just a load of galoots pushing their right hand and falling in repeatably. Hardly any fighter today even knows how to cut a ring off or move their head.
They have like two shots in their entire arsenal and we're sitting playing pretend and acting like its so advanced?

British boxings come on along way hasn't it.
A terrible excuse for a jab that has no variety they're too scared to step in with while their right gloves pinned to the cheek.
Its a mess.

They wouldn't last 5 minutes fighting under the same conditions or even survive 2 minutes without access to a computer.

[dan_cov]

I know I told you to stop linking highlights as they don't work with me. Why do you keep doing that when it does you no good?

They are full length fights.

[dan_cov]

What advances though really?

Lunging opponent back then - They'd take a half step back and throw a beautiful timed counter and step off and create an angle or tie up and either push them back or fight out of the clinch using their free hand
Now - Step in and put opponent in a headlock/modified guillotine until the ref says break - 4-6-10-12 rounds of this muck!

There is a reason all these greats your Ali's, Tysons, RJJs etc studied the old-timers so religiously and funny how since then its been nothing but the sport on its deathbed. Because it is now more fun to simply mock them and make out we're so great and advanced rather than learning something when most of these p**** haven't done a hard days graft in their lives.

Fighters/people are too soft, too comfortable.

I mean these YT goons are now walking up to boxers and they are doing nothing. Could you imagine this back in the day? Their entire crew, security and all would have got laid the **** out. Imagine a Youtuber happy slapping Tyson or Barrera or Morales or someone, lol yeah good luck with that.

The sports embarrassing.

[Ascended]

They are full length fights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxil4OkEtUk 80s no names

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RitgTiTvXc 19 years old

These guys were way more advanced in angle use, timing, fluid/defense/tech, you for a fact, can't make Ray in those prime videos as advanced or the people he fought as advanced.sam you can't either,you have no footage to go over this from semi or full rounds,you know you don't

[dan_cov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxil4OkEtUk 80s no names

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RitgTiTvXc 19 years old

These guys were way more advanced in angle use, timing, fluid/defense/tech, you for a fact, can't make Ray in those prime videos as advanced or the people he fought as advanced.sam you can't either,you have no footage to go over this from semi or full rounds,you know you don't

What angle use? What fluidity and defense? Like seriously did either of them miss a single shot, what defense?

I have posted tons of videos its just you automatically dismiss everything saying its not long enough or something. Like what is even the point if you think or are trying to make out those two novices are more advanced than SRR? Both fighters themselves would even laugh in your face if they heard you claim that.

[Ascended]

The

What angle is used? What fluidity and defense? Like seriously did either of them miss a single shot, what defense?

I have posted tons of videos it's just you automatically dismiss everything saying it's not long enough or something. What is even the point if you think or are trying to make out those two novices are more advanced than SRR? Both fighters themselves would even laugh in your face if they heard you claim that.

He dismisses everything cause you're footage is invalid, you even going against him is a mistake, and you're e trying to alter footage that you can't alter, what do you mean I'm trying to make them as advanced, what do you mean laugh how would they laugh if they for a fact already know they are way more advanced in every area

I'm not you're a teacher I can't teach you what is advanced or make you see good or bad, my job is to say what is and isn't on recorded footage nothing else, I'm ascended I'm trying to help you see good,even though it's not my job

[BodyBagz]

Which fight are you referring to?

Any, all. Rate the losers and their resumes.

[IronDanHamza]

I have posted countless, alternatively you could just as easily go on Youtube and type in their name followed by vs and loads of their fights will pop up.

We are in an era where Leigh Wood is #1 in his division.
Eubank Jr #1 and Liam Smith ranked #2..
Fighters like Tim Tyszu arguably being the #1 in his division

If anything we've gone back to the friggin' stone age.

There are loads of ATGs that was essentially watered down clones of Sugar Ray, copied his style and moniker and was quite clearly inferior and haven't half the resume or accolades. Yet nobody questions them.
His footwork, skill, speed, power, technique is clear as day and still clear when grossly out of shape and well past it and well into his forties.


This him past prime and not even at his best weight

Not that I disagree with overall point but Eubank's not #1, he's not even Top 5 and Smith is unranked.

I don't think Eubank has ever been ranked in the Top 5 of any division ever.