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  • Sin City
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    #51
    Originally posted by Miksterious
    It seems to me that all the opinions you're stating there are someone elses.

    Why instead of regurgitating someone else's opinions, dont you go and educate yourself and then come back with an informed opinion of your own? Why bother with posts full of guess-work and second hand information?
    Actually no the opinions about the Barrera fight are mine and the Kelley fight also. I have watched both of them. Matter of fact I have the Barrera v Nas on my computer and have watched the Kelley one twice. About him only fighting cab drivers and fighting Barrera because he was gonna get stripped, I heard that a bunch of times. Thats the only Kelley fight I have seen but I know he fought Bobby Pacquiao, Erick Morales, and Barrera and got KO'd everytime. I could understand Erick and Marco...but Bobby P??
    Last edited by Sin City; 03-02-2007, 03:12 PM.

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    • The Noose
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      #52
      Originally posted by -Vick-
      I haven't seen too many of his fights but from what I have seen I am not impressed. From what I hear though is that he dodged everyone he thought could beat him only fought cab drivers and only took the fight with Barrera because he was going to get stripped of his belts.
      Hamed beat all the other champions. At some stage held the WBO,IBF and WBC belts.
      He was Featherweight champ for 6 years. Winning 13 out of 15 by KO.

      Ton Johnson was IBF champ for 6 years and had won all 19 fights before being stopped by Hamed.
      Hamed beat 9 other champions, stopping 7 of them by KO or TKO.

      Thats hardly fighting cab drivers. Some would say he avoided JMM, but that was it.

      A record of 37 wins 31 by KO and only 1 loss.

      Who did he dodge, and who was a better Featherweight than him?
      Last edited by The Noose; 03-02-2007, 03:14 PM.

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      • riza
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        #53
        aynone who has followed naz career would know he was he can fight much better than he did against barrera. fact is barrera is a coward and was too ***** to fight him when hamed was challenging him years before. if he fought the hamed that beat robinson he would of got his head knocked off.

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        • wmute
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          #54
          Originally posted by scab46
          Haha wmute, you truly are a spastic thats right, you keep thinking Pacman is a freak. You can go out and work in your silly little job and come home to yuour silly little home thinking you've made a difference in this world but until you realise your the freak and Pacman and the Prince would kill ANY American boxers in there weight clas, until you realise this your just a silly lilttle ignorant boy......get a life, wake up and try to understand boxing, it doesnt go by religion, its not where your from that makes you good or bad, its the hard work the boxer puts in in the gym weeks and months before the fight and you ****** little American creeps need to realise this!
          let's see who is spastic here

          so you think I am american, because i said an ENGLISH fighter would not kill a MEXICAN and a PHILIPINO fighter? that is moronic at best

          but there is more to it: I am not american. I lived in US for two years (and i moved here because this is the country where jobs are not silly and little, quite the contrary: here you can make more money and do more things than anywhere in europe, although for the rest living in southern europe is a much more pleasant experience).

          I was born in Italy, I lived in Glasgow for a long time, I have been for short times in Spain and Portugal and now i am here. guess what not quite american.

          I just call it like i see it, i am not a nuthugger of a fighter who retired after his first loss.

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            #55
            Originally posted by riza
            aynone who has followed naz career would know he was he can fight much better than he did against barrera. fact is barrera is a coward and was too ***** to fight him when hamed was challenging him years before. if he fought the hamed that beat robinson he would of got his head knocked off.
            Barrera was just too smart for Hamed.
            And Hamed too dumb to train for Barerra.

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            • wmute
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              #56
              Originally posted by Naz-Fan
              Pacquiao would have been head on the canvas ****d by that Barrera.
              once again

              fantasy and hopes vs facts

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              • Sin City
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                #57
                Originally posted by Bobby Pazuzu
                Hamed beat all the other champions. At some stage held the WBO,IBF and WBC belts.
                He was Featherweight champ for 6 years. Winning 13 out of 15 by KO.

                Ton Johnson was IBF champ for 6 years and had won all 19 fights before being stopped by Hamed.
                Hamed beat 9 other champions, stopping 7 of them by KO or TKO.

                Thats hardly fighting cab drivers. Some would say he avoided JMM, but that was it.

                A record of 37 wins 31 by KO and only 1 loss.

                Who did he dodge, and who was a better Featherweight than him?
                I think Pac and a young Mayweather would have laid his ass out.

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                • .Mik.
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by -Vick-
                  Was the Kevin Kelley fight the one with all the knock downs? If so if Kelley wouldn't of got over confident and had his guard up I think he could have won. I'm not too familiar with Kelley isn't this a guy who got KO'd by Bobby Pacquiao? but he still gave Nas trouble. Then Barrera just owned the guy. I haven't seen too many of his fights but from what I have seen I am not impressed. From what I hear though is that he dodged everyone he thought could beat him only fought cab drivers and only took the fight with Barrera because he was going to get stripped of his belts.
                  Originally posted by -Vick-
                  Actually no the opinions about the Barrera fight are mine and the Kelley fight also. I have watched both of them. Matter of fact I have the Barrera v Nas on my computer and have watched the Kelley one twice. About him only fighting cab drivers and fighting Barrera because he was gonna get stripped, I heard that a bunch of times. Thats the only Kelley fight I have seen but I know he fought Bobby Pacquiao, Erick Morales, and Barrera and got KO'd everytime. I could understand Erick and Marco...but Bobby P??

                  There seems to be a bit of a discrepancy in what you're saying. Why are you asking if the Kelley fight was the one with all the knockdowns if you've seen the fight and already know? Then you go on to talk nonsense about Kelley as he was a very credible opponent who was known to have great power. Yeah he knocked down Naz three times (only one was legitimate really and all 3 were Naz's fault), but he also got knocked out for the 10 count within 4 rounds having been knocked down 3 times himself. So what difference does it make to Naz's quality if he 'gave him trouble', he still soundly defeated him.

                  You then claim that Barerra 'owned him', which wasnt true. He beat him comfortably, but they were still both fighting and challenging to the final bell. I consider an 'owning' to be either a knockout or a landslide decision full of knockdowns. A 5 round, 3 round, 3 round decision is what you call a 'fairly comfortable decision' not an 'owning'. So you seem a little misinformed there too.

                  You then admit that you dont know much about Hamed and havent seen many of his fights. I would suggest that you rectify that situation, because you did not see the Hamed most of us knew against Barerra and thats bearing in mind that I was rooting for Barerra and in fact, most of Hamed's opponents for his last half a dozen fights or so.

                  Hamed faced a strong quality of opponent as was just demonstrated by Bobby Pazuzu, most of which were champions (cant really be ducking people if you are fighting all the champions) and called out the likes of Barerra plenty of times before he finally got the fight made. He wasnt much of a ducker at all, so you are misinformed there too.

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                  • Sin City
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Miksterious
                    There seems to be a bit of a discrepancy in what you're saying. Why are you asking if the Kelley fight was the one with all the knockdowns if you've seen the fight and already know? Then you go on to talk nonsense about Kelley as he was a very credible opponent who was known to have great power. Yeah he knocked down Naz three times (only one was legitimate really and all 3 were Naz's fault), but he also got knocked out for the 10 count within 4 rounds having been knocked down 3 times himself. So what difference does it make to Naz's quality if he 'gave him trouble', he still soundly defeated him.

                    You then claim that Barerra 'owned him', which wasnt true. He beat him comfortably, but they were still both fighting and challenging to the final bell. I consider an 'owning' to be either a knockout or a landslide decision full of knockdowns. A 5 round, 3 round, 3 round decision is what you call a 'fairly comfortable decision' not an 'owning'. So you seem a little misinformed there too.

                    You then admit that you dont know much about Hamed and havent seen many of his fights. I would suggest that you rectify that situation, because you did not see the Hamed most of us knew against Barerra and thats bearing in mind that I was rooting for Barerra and in fact, most of Hamed's opponents for his last half a dozen fights or so.

                    Hamed faced a strong quality of opponent as was just demonstrated by Bobby Pazuzu, most of which were champions (cant really be ducking people if you are fighting all the champions) and called out the likes of Barerra plenty of times before he finally got the fight made. He wasnt much of a ducker at all, so you are misinformed there too.
                    How was that not an ass beating? he got his head rocked so many times in the barrera fight.. I thought he was dancing to Fat Joe's - Lean back. Then he grabs Marco in the second and pushes him down with him...wtf?? Barrera landed cleaner, landed more, and landed harder. Maybe the score cards didn't show it but he still GOT HIS ASS BEAT! The biggest name Bobby Pazuzu could point out was Tom Johnson...Who lost every big fight he fought. Who else that is of great quality did he beat then... I would have to like to hear some names please!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by -Vick-
                      How was that not an ass beating? he got his head rocked so many times in the barrera fight.. I thought he was dancing to Fat Joe's - Lean back. Then he grabs Marco in the second and pushes him down with him...wtf?? Barrera landed cleaner, landed more, and landed harder. Maybe the score cards didn't show it but he still GOT HIS ASS BEAT! The biggest name Bobby Pazuzu could point out was Tom Johnson...Who lost every big fight he fought. Who else that is of great quality did he beat then... I would have to like to hear some names please!
                      Errrr not really? Barrera ducked one of Hamed's shots and when he brought his head up it was under Hamed's arm. That caused Barrera the ***** to panic and start pushing foward to Hamed and as Hamed was falling down he just held his grip on Barrera. Then Barrera hit him when they were on the floor. Barrera landed more shots. He also landed the better shots. It wasnt an "ass-whooping". Just Barrera fought better.

                      And Pacquiao never beat the Barrera that Naseem lost to. The same way Barrera never beat the Naseem that say Vazquez lost to.

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