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  • Shanus
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    #81
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    Not all true.

    Jones still has Hopkins and Toney on his record, much great resume just with those two names than Joe. Joe couldn't even make a fight with Clinton Woods happen.

    Mayweather has a better resume as well. You don't go around handpicking the names that are on his resume.

    Mayweather can't get Hatton and Cotto into the ring, not his fault, and it is probably to late for it to happen now since Floyd looks to retire.
    His retirement is ridiculous and will dent his legacy, but this isn't about Floyd, and I didn't mean it to turn into a Floyd discussion, but Hopkins was young and stylistically Roy is all wrong for him, even to this day I'd pick Roy over Hopkins.

    And Floyd could get Hatton and Cotto into the ring, but him and his blind fans make up the excuse saying "He doesn't have to go to them, he's P4P baby, they come to him!" which is complete and utter bull****, so he sits behind his P4P status and expects them to knock on his door. It takes 2 to tango.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Shanus
      His retirement is ridiculous and will dent his legacy, but this isn't about Floyd, and I didn't mean it to turn into a Floyd discussion, but Hopkins was young and stylistically Roy is all wrong for him, even to this day I'd pick Roy over Hopkins.

      And Floyd could get Hatton and Cotto into the ring, but him and his blind fans make up the excuse saying "He doesn't have to go to them, he's P4P baby, they come to him!" which is complete and utter bull****, so he sits behind his P4P status and expects them to knock on his door. It takes 2 to tango.
      You know better than that, Shanus.
      Hatton has no desire to fight Floyd, and at this point, Cotto hasnt shown any desire either.
      Floyds camp has contacted both of their camps on various occasions with either 0 response or ludicrious requests in return.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Shanus
        Hopkins was offered 3 million to fight Joe, he turned that down for whatever reason.
        Again, Ive seen no evidence of this.
        Ever.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          When was this?

          was this before or after Hopkins received 10+ million for winning the OSCAR?
          He made a lot of money for Tito before that.
          3 million pound = $6 million.

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            #85
            Originally posted by PBF34
            You know better than that, Shanus.
            Hatton has no desire to fight Floyd, and at this point, Cotto hasnt shown any desire either.
            You're going to look pretty ****** when the fight is signed.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Shanus
              Roy Jones and Mayweather both hand picked opponents, look at how highly they're regarded.
              Yet at the same time, the names on thier resumes dwarf Calzaghe's.

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                #87
                Originally posted by PBF34
                Again, Ive seen no evidence of this.
                Ever.
                The only evidence is the word from Frank Warren's mouth, he's not one of the good guys but I doubt he'd lie about that.

                Originally posted by PBF34
                You know better than that, Shanus.
                Hatton has no desire to fight Floyd, and at this point, Cotto hasnt shown any desire either.
                Floyds camp has contacted both of their camps on various occasions with either 0 response or ludicrious requests in return.
                I've seen no evidence of this, either.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Miksterious
                  You're going to look pretty ****** when the fight is signed.
                  I dont think I look ****** at all.
                  I clearly stated that up to this point, neither have shown legitimate interest in fighting Floyd.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by PBF34
                    I dont think I look ****** at all.
                    I clearly stated that up to this point, neither have shown legitimate interest in fighting Floyd.
                    But has Floyd ever shown legitimate interest in fighting them, either? Don't talk about the offers that Hatton turned down, because I doubt the terms/purse/conditions would have been acceptable, nobody knows how much he was offered.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Shanus
                      The only evidence is the word from Frank Warren's mouth, he's not one of the good guys but I doubt he'd lie about that.



                      I've seen no evidence of this, either.
                      Well you do remember Hatton asking for 15 mil to fight Floyd, Floyd calling him out and then Hatton signing a 3 fight deal that intentionally does not include Floyd Mayweather?
                      I have some other articles, but ill pick this up later, ive got to catch dinner.

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