Even if Mayweather beats Delahoya, does that make him a legend ? ? ?

[brownpimp88]

How old r u, 8? Look at Duran's resume at 135, dummy. He is considered the ALL TIME GREAT at that weight class, YOU idiot. That's why he's a LEGEND, ok, pendejo.

actually take a very good look at duran's resume, he has only beaten a few good fighters, his record is loaded on bums you moron. When he was a lightweight buchanon, kobayashi, marcel, de jesus and palomino were the only good guys he beat, the rest were cans. Then from 1982-1989 he loses to benitez, hearns, hagler and leonard.

[ThaHorseman]

Floyd was cuttin weight to fight smaller guys so he can have an advantage, just like all the others before him. He's a natural 147lb er. Face it, he was huge for 130, just like Oscar.

hahahaha. That right there shows how biased you are. So biased that you have to make up lies to support your pathetic little argument. Let me repeat, Floyd has NEVER drained to make weight. He started as a legit 130lber and is a legit 140lber today. He should have had one or two fights for legacy-sake at 147, yet he's fighting at 154 and people seem to think he should fight at 160. He is out of his division at 147 and taking a HUGE risk at 154. Get your hating ass mind right.

[Caca]

actually take a very good look at duran's resume, he has only beaten a few good fighters, his record is loaded on bums you moron. When he was a lightweight buchanon, kobayashi, marcel, de jesus and palomino were the only good guys he beat, the rest were cans. Then from 1982-1989 he loses to benitez, hearns, hagler and leonard.

And Floyd aint fought no one.

[ROSEWOOD]

And Floyd aint fought no one.

nope.....he only fights champions...and takes their belt...nope, he fights no one...

[brownpimp88]

And Floyd aint fought no one.

yeah castillo and coralles are no one even though they will be in the hall of fame, right dumbass?

[Caca]

yeah castillo and coralles are no one even though they will be in the hall of fame, right dumbass?

Name one top ten P4P fighter (at the time) that he's faced.

[brownpimp88]

Name one top ten P4P fighter (at the time) that he's faced.

name 1 big win that oscar has? Lol his entire career was built on beating old guys and b level fighters. Oscar loses the big fights.

[K-DOGG]

where is floyd mayweather's place in history after the delahoya fight? who else does he have to fight to go down in history ...

I personally feel that beating delahoya will not prove anything ...Delahoya is a business man now... he aint tryin to box no more.

Huh. Nice thought, actually.


Anyway, in regards to the title of the thread, the word "legend" is tosses around way too frequently. Very few, and I mean VERY FEW fighters have achieved true "LEGEND" status, especially in their own time.

A few that come to mind....

John L. Sullivan
Joe Gans
James J. Jeffries
Stanley Ketchel
Jack Dempsey
Mickey Walker
Harry Greb
Hank Armstrong
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Ray Robinson
Archie Moore
Muhammad Ali
Roberto Duran
Ray Leonard
Marvin Hagler
Julio Caesar Chavez

...there might be others; but those are the ones that come to mind as achieving true "legend" status. And, yes, they are all great fighters; but it takes more than being a "great fighter" to become a "legend"......the people have to virtually worship you. And, by and large, most people don't worship Floyd because he comes off as a bit of a boorish *******.

So, given that to be a "legend" in your own time requires that the people love you, I'd say a win over De La Hoya won't mean anything. In fact, I'd say that Manny Pacquiao is far closer to "legend" status that Mayweather will be until long after he retires.

[brownpimp88]

Huh. Nice thought, actually.


Anyway, in regards to the title of the thread, the word "legend" is tosses around way too frequently. Very few, and I mean VERY FEW fighters have achieved true "LEGEND" status, especially in their own time.

A few that come to mind....

John L. Sullivan
Joe Gans
James J. Jeffries
Stanley Ketchel
Jack Dempsey
Mickey Walker
Harry Greb
Hank Armstrong
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Ray Robinson
Archie Moore
Muhammad Ali
Roberto Duran
Ray Leonard
Marvin Hagler
Julio Caesar Chavez

...there might be others; but those are the ones that come to mind as achieving true "legend" status. And, yes, they are all great fighters; but it takes more than being a "great fighter" to become a "legend"......the people have to virtually worship you. And, by and large, most people don't worship Floyd because he comes off as a bit of a boorish *******.

So, given that to be a "legend" in your own time requires that the people love you, I'd say a win over De La Hoya won't mean anything. In fact, I'd say that Manny Pacquiao is far closer to "legend" status that Mayweather will be until long after he retires.

what about pernell whitaker? He beat chavez 9 rounds to 3.

[brownpimp88]

If floyd's win over oscar means ****, then rocky's win over archie, joe louis, ezzard all mean **** as they were all out of thier primes.