What Made Kostya Tsyzu Great?

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  • DA1CATAS
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    #31
    Originally posted by $iN
    I've been hearing a few calling Tsyzu an all-time great. What exactly did he do that was so great? His best win is over an overrated Zab Judah and a Sharmba Mitchell that isn't that good to begin with. He beat up on an old Julio Cesar Chavez and Jesse James Leija. He had some solid wins, but his career wasn't enough to consider him one of the greats...
    lol.. thats just it.. he hasn't done anything

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    • guru
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      #32
      Originally posted by brently1979
      Tsyzu fought DLH's left overs: Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Ruleas, Leija, and a well past his expiry date Chavez, didn't they wheeled chavez into the ring and placed him on the ropes for Tsyzu to go to work?

      Tsyzu ducked Gatti as far as I'm concerned.
      he also fought guys oscar did not fight zab, mitchell, tackie, hurtado.... gatti?? lol, what did gatti do to make you think zoo ducked him, lose to robinson twice, manfready and ward.... gatti is great to watch, but he was no where near a great fighter

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #33
        Originally posted by guru
        you have to give zoo credit for cleaning out a division and unifying the titles... at the time only he and hopkins were undisputed champs... he made 8 straight defenses and soundly beat his opponents... and dont forget at the time 140 was considered one of the deepest divisions: zoo, zab, harris, hurtado, gatti, mitchell, urkal, MAG, ruelas, tackie,
        Oh so all of a sudden Gatti is proper fighter? lol, funny that aint it? when mayweather beat him he was a bum. lol (that comment was not aimed at you, its a general comment)

        Urkal = Lol
        Tackie= Bonehead, no skills
        Michell, Slick but couldn't hurt a fly
        Harris= Not convinced about him, Urkal beat him 1st time around
        Judah= Yep, he beat Judah, who is a proper fighter imo

        mmmm. im not totally convinced.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Technical_Skill
          Oh so all of a sudden Gatti is proper fighter? lol, funny that aint it? when mayweather beat him he was a bum. lol (that comment was not aimed at you, its a general comment)

          Urkal = Lol
          Tackie= Bonehead, no skills
          Michell, Slick but couldn't hurt a fly
          Harris= Not convinced about him, Urkal beat him 1st time around
          Judah= Yep, he beat Judah, who is a proper fighter imo

          mmmm. im not totally convinced.
          i'm not saying these guys are great, but at the time 140 was one of the deepest divisions in boxing.... there were alot of good, close, competitive fights to made at 140

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          • Technical_Skill
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            #35
            Originally posted by guru
            i'm not saying these guys are great, but at the time 140 was one of the deepest divisions in boxing
            If this is the case

            It says more about the Divison, then it does about Tsysu.

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              #36
              Originally posted by guru
              he also fought guys oscar did not fight zab, mitchell, tackie, hurtado.... gatti?? lol, what did gatti do to make you think zoo ducked him, lose to robinson twice, manfready and ward.... gatti is great to watch, but he was no where near a great fighter
              I love how you give Tsyzu credit for beating guys like Zab and Mitchell, but you **** on Mayweather for beating the same guys...

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              • Sin City
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                #37
                I think its funny that the fighters who Kostya and Mayweather both fought are bums when ya'll speaking about Tszyu but any other time that you speak of when Mayweather fought them they were great champions! lmao.. Double standards?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sin City
                  I think its funny that the fighters who Kostya and Mayweather both fought are bums when ya'll speaking about Tszyu but any other time that you speak of when Mayweather fought them they were great champions! lmao.. Double standards?
                  Judah and Mitchell are Tsyzus best wins. They are not even close to Mayweather's best. That's the difference...

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                  • Technical_Skill
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sin City
                    I think its funny that the fighters who Kostya and Mayweather both fought are bums when ya'll speaking about Tszyu but any other time that you speak of when Mayweather fought them they were great champions! lmao.. Double standards?
                    Ermm i dont remember any of us Claiming these guys were 'great champions'

                    Proof please?

                    Or goodbye.

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                    • guru
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by $iN
                      I love how you give Tsyzu credit for beating guys like Zab and Mitchell, but you **** on Mayweather for beating the same guys...
                      i dont consider zoo an all time great either... also, wouldnt that make them zoo leftovers that PBF fought?? so that makes it even worse for PBF

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