What Made Kostya Tsyzu Great?

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  • BrooklynBomber
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    #21
    Originally posted by SiN
    So he beat a bunch of solid to good fighters, but never really fought anyone on his level in his prime? That doesn't sound all that great to me. Mitchell was especially overrated during the time Tsyzu was injured. He got a ton of credit for beating a string of journeymen. Gonzalez and Tackie were solid fighters, never anything great. His resume just isn't that impressive, honestly...
    LEt me put it this way, his resume is better then of PBF's right now.
    The last couple of years PBF only fought Tszyu's leftovers.
    Tszyu dominated the division with an iron hand and these fighters that you call "solid" were top fighters at the time. He beat what he had in front of him.
    That makes him one of the best fighters at 140, oh and your opinion worth ****e around here, just to let you know

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      #22
      Oh yeah, is sin another anorak **** victim?
      Or he got gang ******?

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      • Bonafide
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        #23
        Originally posted by RunW/Knives
        I think Mosley was better at 140 than Tszyu was.
        I also think Mosley moving up and seeking doom against bigger guys erased the shadow that KT was under....easily.

        it's too bad Shane jumped from 135 right to 147.
        A fight with Kostya at 140 would have been great.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
          LEt me put it this way, his resume is better then of PBF's right now.
          The last couple of years PBF only fought Tszyu's leftovers.
          Tszyu dominated the division with an iron hand and these fighters that you call "solid" were top fighters at the time. He beat what he had in front of him.
          That makes him one of the best fighters at 140, oh and your opinion worth ****e around here, just to let you know
          You've got to be joking...

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          • Technical_Skill
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            #25
            Originally posted by $iN
            I've been hearing a few calling Tsyzu an all-time great. What exactly did he do that was so great? His best win is over an overrated Zab Judah and a Sharmba Mitchell that isn't that good to begin with. He beat up on an old Julio Cesar Chavez and Jesse James Leija. He had some solid wins, but his career wasn't enough to consider him one of the greats...
            Thats weird, i just brought up the same thing in another thread, i need to see him properly, but from what i have seen, he is overrated, people talk about him as the greatest 140 pounder of all time, But the other night i saw Hurtado beat the **** outta him for periods of that fight and vince phillips smacked him about as well.
            Last edited by Technical_Skill; 05-04-2007, 10:27 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              Thats weird, i just brought up the same thing in another thread, i need to see him properly, but from what i have seen, he is overrated, people talk about him as the greatest 140 pounder of all time, But the other night i saw Hurtado beat this **** outta him for periods of that and vince phillips smacked him about as well.

              zoo pummeled hurtado... except for a few flash knockdowns in the 1st round(where zoo also put him down) hurtado got killed... at the time of the stoppage zoo was well ahead

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                #27
                Tsyzu fought DLH's left overs: Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Ruleas, Leija, and a well past his expiry date Chavez, didn't they wheeled chavez into the ring and placed him on the ropes for Tsyzu to go to work?

                Tsyzu ducked Gatti as far as I'm concerned.

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by guru
                  zoo pummeled hurtado... except for a few flash knockdowns in the 1st round(where zoo also put him down) hurtado got killed... at the time of the stoppage zoo was well ahead
                  Ermm nope, saw bits of it on KO TV classics while posting on here, Hurtado did well, really cut Tsysu up, hit with several big shots also. He deffo gave tsysu trouble,

                  Now im not saying tsysu aint good, but i doubt wether he is the best ever at 140,

                  I pick Mayweather over him at 140 any day of the week,

                  Also i am informed Aaron Pryor is the best at 140, although i havent seen him, i think i need to.

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                  • guru
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                    #29
                    you have to give zoo credit for cleaning out a division and unifying the titles... at the time only he and hopkins were undisputed champs... he made 8 straight defenses and soundly beat his opponents... and dont forget at the time 140 was considered one of the deepest divisions: zoo, zab, harris, hurtado, gatti, mitchell, urkal, MAG, ruelas, tackie,

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                      Ermm nope, saw bits of it on KO TV classics while posting on here, Hurtado did well, really cut Tsysu up, hit with several big shots also. He deffo gave tsysu trouble,

                      i have the ENTIRE fight on tape and have watched it several times... outside of the 1st round hurtado got smoked....

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