Prime Roy Jones vs. Prime Floyd Mayweather

[Easy-E]

Rubbish. He started saying the same **** as Eubank in KO Magazine in '94, the same **** Eubank had said three years earlier in the same magazine - it was hilarious!

Becuase they said similar things, that must mean one fighter considers another his hero!

[Run]

You don't believe in me???

I believe in your conviction.

I totally disbelieve all the Toney nuthugging you do and especially when it comes to a discussion about the fight between he and Roy Jones Jr.

That's just sad homeboy. Watch the fight again and quit the denial.



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[oldgringo]

Coming from the guy who said Toney would go down as a better fighter than Roy even though Roy won fighter of the decade in the very same decade while TOney was in his prime??

And just because Toney is struggling with the weakest HW division in recent memory doesnt mean he will be considered better than Roy.

Toney is 3-1-2 at HW, his wins coming against Rydell Booker, Dominick Guinn and an ancient Evander Holyfield.

Toney weighed 215 pounds like 5-6 weeks before the fight. He weighed in at 167 I believe come time of weigh in. He was drained badly from making weight.

*just so you dont ****** We all know that it's his fault for not being able to mae weight in healthy fashion, but he was already having issues at that point in his SMW career. Jones beat him straight up, but James was still drained from trying to make weight. Hence why he looked sluggish and apathetic.

This is an "if" statement, but if James makes weight comfortably...that fight looks somewhat different...even though Roy was a bad style matchup.

[GunStar]

How so??
And you seem to be the one avoiding the questions here.
Ive asked you more than once what specific 4 rounds you gave to James Toney in their fight.
Can you just answer that?

How am I avoiding question, if I'm debating with someone that does not know all the facts, I just rather not waste my time!

As for the fight, I've to watch it again to tell you which rounds Toney won, like I said before it's been years the last time I saw the fight!

[GEOFFHAYES]

Becuase they said similar things, that must mean one fighter considers another his hero!

Naz wanted to be Eubank as well, though would deny it, ofcourse.

It's a psychological thing, hard to explain but it's the opinion of many that Naz and Jones just wanted to be Eubank, even though they had more natural talent in their little finger than Eubank ever had.

[oldgringo]

If you paid attention to boxing at all you'd understand that Toney had BAD problems with his weight. Draining yourself to make weight does have a negative effect on performance.

[Run]

Toney weighed 215 pounds like 5-6 weeks before the fight. He weighed in at 167 I believe come time of weigh in. He was drained badly from making weight.

*just so you dont ****** We all know that it's his fault for not being able to mae weight in healthy fashion, but he was already having issues at that point in his SMW career. Jones beat him straight up, but James was still drained from trying to make weight. Hence why he looked sluggish and apathetic.

This is an "if" statement, but if James makes weight comfortably...that fight looks somewhat different...even though Roy was a bad style matchup.

You were sick when you watched that, but it's worth watching again.

****ing crazy fight I've watched it twice this week.



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[GEOFFHAYES]

Imagine having to fight a prime Roy Jones Jr in the condition you were in when watching the Toney-Jirov fight, oldgringo.

[oldgringo]

You were sick when you watched that, but it's worth watching again.

****ing crazy fight I've watched it twice this week.

I have seen it probably 30 times. Insane final round. Manny Stewards tone basically sums up what kind of fight that was. Toney took down the best Cruiser in years in that fight.

I used to see people on this site claim that their favorite light heavyweight/cruiser/heavy etc would stop Toney in one round. I don't think so...dude has a cast iron chin.

[oldgringo]

Imagine having to fight a prime Roy Jones Jr in the condition you were in when watching the Toney-Jirov fight, oldgringo.

jones would have his way with me but i'd know that i was moving on to a better place when toney drops and almost halts vassiliy!