Where do you have Jermain Taylor in the P4P List?

[K-DOGG]

Bottom line is Taylor just beat Hopkins twice in a row and drew against the number 2 p4p fighter in the world.
Hopkins has lost 2 of his last 3 fights and then beat Tarver, who was number 9 or 10 depending on who you talk to.
Tony has beaten absolutly no one that you could even consider being p4p worthy.

I completely disagree. The performance is where you're ranked, not the judges result. In my book....and not just mine....Taylor barely won the first Hopkins fight, drew in the rematch....and LOST to Winky Wright. Ergo, Taylor has not looked impressive enough to break past 6 in my book. He has yet to establish himself as a championship-level fighter. He's up there, he competed; but he didn't bury any questions concerning his sovereignty over the division. If anything, he's raised more questions.

Tony, I feel has done enough to break the Top ten, with Morales past it and Barrera about to be and Hatton looking anything but impressive in his last bout.

[Easy-E]

1) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Winky Wright
4) Jermain Taylor
5) Marco Antionio Barrera
6) Joe Calzaghe
7) Bernard Hopkins
8) Ricky Hatton
9) Rafael Marquez
10) Jose Luis Castillo

(If Cotto wins impressivly this weekend, which I expect he will, I will have him at number 10, and Wright if he wins by a wide margin, will be back at number 2)

[Easy-E]

I completely disagree. The performance is where you're ranked, not the judges result. In my book....and not just mine....Taylor barely won the first Hopkins fight, drew in the rematch....and LOST to Winky Wright. Ergo, Taylor has not looked impressive enough to break past 6 in my book. He has yet to establish himself as a championship-level fighter. He's up there, he competed; but he didn't bury any questions concerning his sovereignty over the division. If anything, he's raised more questions.

Tony, I feel has done enough to break the Top ten, with Morales past it and Barrera about to be and Hatton looking anything but impressive in his last bout.

Taylor took on the number 1 p4p fighter in the world TWICE and won both times. Those are the facts. Granted, they werent extremly impressive, for it they were he would be top 3. However, with those victories and a draw over the number 2 p4p fighter in the world he clearly deserves to be in the top 5, far more than Hopkins, who has lost his last 2 out of 3.
Hatton is 41 and 0, with a victory over Kostya Tszyu, a bigger win and better performance than all of Margirito's victories combined.
Barrera is clearly higher on the p4p list than Tony.
I cant even believe your trying to argue these points.

[K-DOGG]

Taylor took on the number 1 p4p fighter in the world TWICE and won both times. Those are the facts. Granted, they werent extremly impressive, for it they were he would be top 3. However, with those victories and a draw over the number 2 p4p fighter in the world he clearly deserves to be in the top 5, far more than Hopkins, who has lost his last 2 out of 3.
Hatton is 41 and 0, with a victory over Kostya Tszyu, a bigger win and better performance than all of Margirito's victories combined.
Barrera is clearly higher on the p4p list than Tony.
I cant even believe your trying to argue these points.

Barrera is slipping/has been slipping for a while.
Hatton looked horrible against Collazo; he looked like anything but a world beater.

...you are only as good as your last fight, which is why the arguement can be made for Pacquiao being #1 and NOT Mayweather....based on their relative competition and dominance. Manny has fought better competition over the last three years than has Mayweather.

On the Taylor/Hopkins/Wright series, we're just going to have to disagree. He did not look impressive, he did not establish dominance, and it can be argued that he did not win ONE of those fights.

Pound-for-pound is a mythical list that says if Fighter A fought Fighter B and all things were equal, one or the other would win based on their skill, power, etc. You are only as good as your last fight; pound-4-pound is not a title you earn and then hold onto until you lose, neither is any ranking on a p4p list.....it all has to do with your last fight and how you looked against your competition; and who your competition was and how good they were in relation to everyone else on that list.

Cintron was not a bad fighter; and Margarito destroyed him. His power is his strength. Whether or not it's enough to keep him where he is remains to be seen. For all we know, he could knock Floyd Mayweather to kingdom-come; but until Floyd accepts his challenge and mans-up, we won't know. Tony should not suffer because nobody wants to fight him.

[Easy-E]

Barrera is slipping/has been slipping for a while.
Hatton looked horrible against Collazo; he looked like anything but a world beater.

...you are only as good as your last fight, which is why the arguement can be made for Pacquiao being #1 and NOT Mayweather....based on their relative competition and dominance. Manny has fought better competition over the last three years than has Mayweather.

On the Taylor/Hopkins/Wright series, we're just going to have to disagree. He did not look impressive, he did not establish dominance, and it can be argued that he did not win ONE of those fights.

Pound-for-pound is a mythical list that says if Fighter A fought Fighter B and all things were equal, one or the other would win based on their skill, power, etc. You are only as good as your last fight; pound-4-pound is not a title you earn and then hold onto until you lose, neither is any ranking on a p4p list.....it all has to do with your last fight and how you looked against your competition; and who your competition was and how good they were in relation to everyone else on that list.

Cintron was not a bad fighter; and Margarito destroyed him. His power is his strength. Whether or not it's enough to keep him where he is remains to be seen. For all we know, he could knock Floyd Mayweather to kingdom-come; but until Floyd accepts his challenge and mans-up, we won't know. Tony should not suffer because nobody wants to fight him.

The "your only as good as your last fight" idea is complete and total bull****. Hatton has climbed his way to the top and remained undefeated, and Barrera has stayed on top moving up in weigh divisions against younger and stronger figheters. Hatton didnt look great, but thats because he was fighting a very good, very tricky southpaw in Luis Collazo who is very underrated.
I certianly hope your not actully buying into the "everybody is scared of Tony Margirito" bull****, because its so far from the truth its laughable. Judah, Williams, Collazo and Rivera are all fighers who have called him out with no response, and he takes the least dangerous opponent in Clottey. I really thought you were smart enough not to belive the load of **** Margirito, his promoter and his "e-warriors" are spreading.

[Mishra100]

It all depends on what p4p really means to you.

[K-DOGG]

The "your only as good as your last fight" idea is complete and total bull****. Hatton has climbed his way to the top and remained undefeated, and Barrera has stayed on top moving up in weigh divisions against younger and stronger figheters. Hatton didnt look great, but thats because he was fighting a very good, very tricky southpaw in Luis Collazo who is very underrated.
I certianly hope your not actully buying into the "everybody is scared of Tony Margirito" bull****, because its so far from the truth its laughable. Judah, Williams, Collazo and Rivera are all fighers who have called him out with no response, and he takes the least dangerous opponent in Clottey. I really thought you were smart enough not to belive the load of **** Margirito, his promoter and his "e-warriors" are spreading.

1. "You're only as good as your last fight" has been around a lot longer than I've been alive....so it's not "Mine".

2. No, I'm not buying into "Everybody's scared of Margarito" crap; but I'm not buying into "nobody can beat Floyd" bull**** either.

Pick your poison.

[Parody]

1. "You're only as good as your last fight" has been around a lot longer than I've been alive....so it's not "Mine".

2. No, I'm not buying into "Everybody's scared of Margarito but I'm not buying into "nobody can beat Floyd" either.

Pick your poison.

What will you Prediction be for Mayweather vs Margarito? remember your basing it on Margarito's fights against the like of Gomez...and Kyuelas anyways can you give me a prediction?

[K-DOGG]

What will you Prediction be for Mayweather vs Margarito? remember your basing it on Margarito's fights against the like of Gomez...and Kyuelas anyways can you give me a prediction?

It's irrelevant; but I don't see Margarito beating Mayweather, no.

Regardless of who I think will win, or what the result will be, as Champion, Mayweather owes a shot to Margarito and any other worthy contender.

[Parody]

It's irrelevant; but I don't see Margarito beating Mayweather, no.

Regardless of who I think will win, or what the result will be, as Champion, Mayweather owes a shot to Margarito and any other worthy contender.

The question is who has margarito faced recently that he should get a fight with Mayweather? If he beats Clottey and Williams, both of them then Floyd will give him a fight as he has faced someone, althought I expect Clottey to give Margarito a tough fight, Margarito should finish him, if he does'nt he is VERY OVERRATED or Clottey is underrated, however you want to put it, Point is if margarito losses to clottey, he blows it up big time.