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  • Ivich
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    #61
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

    Does this imply that Ali's gloves were replaced ? -- that should add on some serious time without having to run to the dressing room.

    Remember Ali is almost out on his feet, Dundee first has to go through the whole "sit down, stand up" routine with Ali even before Dundee begins to work on him, and would have noticed the tear in the glove.

    I was under the impression they thought the tear small and allowed the fight to continue without replacement.

    ?????? What is Teddy Waltham suggesting?
    That there was no need to go to the dressing room for another pair,the gloves, were not replaced.The tear was small .

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #62
      Originally posted by Ivich
      That there was no need to go to the dressing room for another pair,the gloves, were not replaced.The tear was small .
      - - What part of Angie saying he stuck his finger in to rip them larger do you not understand?

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      • Ivich
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        #63
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - - What part of Angie saying he stuck his finger in to rip them larger do you not understand?
        What part six seconds delay do you not understand?
        What part of the complete fight was shown unedited on BBBC TV 2 nights later, with a stop watch in one corner of the screen,are you unable to comprehend?
        What part of Dundee stating in his autobiography that the delay was only a few seconds can you not grasp?
        Just how mentally challenged are you?
        If I hadn't read previous content by you that confirms you are an idiot,I would think you were trolling,but you aren't, you're just ******!

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        • Willie Pep 229
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          #64
          Originally posted by Ivich
          What part six seconds delay do you not understand?
          What part of the complete fight was shown unedited on BBBC TV 2 nights later, with a stop watch in one corner of the screen,are you unable to comprehend?
          What part of Dundee stating in his autobiography that the delay was only a few seconds can you not grasp?
          Just how mentally challenged are you?
          If I hadn't read previous content by you that confirms you are an idiot,I would think you were trolling,but you aren't, you're just ******!
          He is just referencing something Dundee claimed more than once.

          The cloud in the water is Dundee, he caused this.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Ivich
            That there was no need to go to the dressing room for another pair,the gloves, were not replaced. The tear was small .
            He was not clear about that part, only saying the replacements were near by. Wonder why he noted where the replacement gloves were located instead of just saying the gloves were not changed. Simpler reply, more definitive.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

              He was not clear about that part, only saying the replacements were near by. Wonder why he noted where the replacement gloves were located instead of just saying the gloves were not changed. Simpler reply, more definitive.
              Stan Courtney, the timekeeper said the gloves were not replaced,,Angelo Dundee said the gloves were not replaced.I'll go with that.

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              • Willie Pep 229
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                #67
                Originally posted by Ivich
                Stan Courtney, the timekeeper said the gloves were not replaced,,Angelo Dundee said the gloves were not replaced.I'll go with that.
                OK I'm on board.

                I realized after I wrote why that individual would bother to point out where the replacement gloves were located even if not needed.

                He was the Commission (?) and probably was tried of hearing how they had to (supposedly) rummage around the dressing room looking for gloves. That story probably offended him so he made damn sure everyone knew there were extra gloves at ringside even if not needed.

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                • mrbig1
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                  #68
                  Another film of Jack Johnson fighting a midget.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                    He is just referencing something Dundee claimed more than once.

                    The cloud in the water is Dundee, he caused this.
                    - - Vich regressing to the point where he needs his steak pureed for him.

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                    • Dubblechin
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - - Tell it to Dundee, the ref, Cooper, and other officials who made the various claims, not me...duh!

                      Already mention the alleged Beeb audio...double duh!! All that soft continental cuisine, French wine, and aero flights softening up U moldable clay!
                      I posted the link to the video of Cooper, his manager, Ali and Dundee immediately after the fight. Nobody said there was a delay. The one reporter even asked Dundee if calling the ref over to point out the tear in the palm of the glove gave him more time, and Dundee says NO.

                      (LET ME REPEAT THAT. Dundee was asked if calling the ref over to point out the tear resulted in Ali getting more time to recover, and DUNDEE says no.)

                      The complete film is availalbe. The postfight comments by both teams are available in the link.

                      Before international satellite feeds, US fighters used to go to Europe to box and come home with all kinds of stories. Dundee told stories about the Cooper fight for decades because it wasn't available to watch in the US for decades. Then it was ... and everyone wondered where the time delay to replace the glove was ... because we'd been hearing that story for years.

                      But it never happened. Sorry. The myth was shown to be just that a long time ago. You must not have been keeping up.

                      The glove was never replaced. There was no long delay. It never happened.
                      Last edited by Dubblechin; 12-17-2022, 01:10 PM.

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