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  • #81
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - They rushed to help Ali up at the bell and led him to the convenient corner 10' away. Ali with his fixed stare eyes didn't get up himself, but after saying that I'll watch the clip again with verification or corrections as needed.
    - - Problem solved!!!

    Left hook knocks Ali torso into top rope where he bounces off to circle to his left with back now to opposite rope where Cooper clocks him again, this time going down on his fanny on the lower rope that's tight enough to bounce his weight off onto the canvas. Without the ropes he's 10' out the ring on the arena floor or some astonished spectator's lap. He's up by himself after a few seconds walking to his corner where Dundee plunges through to sit him down as a 2nd trainer torso is starting to enter the ring.

    Splice city, boys, read it and weep!

    Slomo Replay of KD then cuts back to the corner with all in the ring now with the ref standing behind them. I've seen other clips at more a distance straight on view where we can see more clearly salts administered and Ali reaction. This is a spliced together clip at the critical point where another video seems to exist showing a different view.

    But, mutts is gonna be mutts, nuts, and fruitcakes, so again, I'll go with Dundee even as his story changes over the years than a pack of mutts, nuts, and all around fruitcakes...

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    • #82
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Problem solved!!!

      Left hook knocks Ali torso into top rope where he bounces off to circle to his left with back now to opposite rope where Cooper clocks him again, this time going down on his fanny on the lower rope that's tight enough to bounce his weight off onto the canvas. Without the ropes he's 10' out the ring on the arena floor or some astonished spectator's lap. He's up by himself after a few seconds walking to his corner where Dundee plunges through to sit him down as a 2nd trainer torso is starting to enter the ring.

      Splice city, boys, read it and weep!

      Slomo Replay of KD then cuts back to the corner with all in the ring now with the ref standing behind them. I've seen other clips at more a distance straight on view where we can see more clearly salts administered and Ali reaction. This is a spliced together clip at the critical point where another video seems to exist showing a different view.

      But, mutts is gonna be mutts, nuts, and fruitcakes, so again, I'll go with Dundee even as his story changes over the years than a pack of mutts, nuts, and all around fruitcakes...
      You're the only fruitcake here. There was no splice, nor excessive extra time. You have no proof as usual, and Ali still won the fight. Surely there would be film of your made up version of events were it not just a warped delusion in your mind. But alas, there is not.
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      • #83
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        You're the only fruitcake here. There was no splice, nor excessive extra time. You have no proof as usual, and Ali still won the fight. Surely there would be film of your made up version of events were it not just a warped delusion in your mind. But alas, there is not.
        - - U gonna book burn the multitudes of dozens Ali bios where the participants and spectators of the Cooper 1 fight talk about the torn glove, administered smelling salts, and time delay is it now?

        Go git'em Tigger!!!

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        • #84
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - U gonna book burn the multitudes of dozens Ali bios where the participants and spectators of the Cooper 1 fight talk about the torn glove, administered smelling salts, and time delay is it now?

          Go git'em Tigger!!!
          The myth has been debunked and you have zero proof except Dundee exaggerations for self promotion. Please point me to the spectator's who said there was all this time between rounds. If that really happened why would Dundee go back on what he said in his autobiography? And why is there no commentary from the fight discussing this long time between rounds? Were the commentators not in on this conspiracy?
          Last edited by JAB5239; 12-19-2022, 04:58 PM.
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          • #85
            I found in the New York Times, the next day (June 20th, 1963) an article that printed excerpts of the BBC radio announcers' (Sort of a truncated version of the) round by round broadcast.

            Between rounds four and five the BBC announcer says the refree is looking at the torn glove, and bemoans that it would be ashame if Clay gets extra time if they choose to change the gloves. The announcer then says, "OK, good, they're not going to change the gloves."
            Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 12-19-2022, 09:15 PM.
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            • #86
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
              I found in the New York Times, the next day (June 20th, 1963) an article that printed excerpts of the BBC radio announcers' (Sort of a truncated version of the) round by round broadcast.

              Between rounds four and five the BBC announcer says the refree is looking at the torn glove, and bemoans that it would be ashame if Clay gets extra time if they choose to change the gloves. The announcer then says, "OK, good, they're not going to change the gloves."
              You cannot believe anything written in the New York Times, especially if it's excerpts from the BBC. Ali was given so much extra time between rounds he was able to eat a meal, get a massage and watch two episodes of "I love Lucy", with commercials, have some dessert, change the glove and get back on time to start the fifth round and stop Cooper. The AUDACITY!!

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              • #87
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                You cannot believe anything written in the New York Times, especially if it's excerpts from the BBC. Ali was given so much extra time between rounds he was able to eat a meal, get a massage and watch two episodes of "I love Lucy", with commercials, have some dessert, change the glove and get back on time to start the fifth round and stop Cooper. The AUDACITY!!
                Stop exaggerating the BBC didn't have commercials.
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                • #88
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                  You cannot believe anything written in the New York Times, especially if it's excerpts from the BBC. Ali was given so much extra time between rounds he was able to eat a meal, get a massage and watch two episodes of "I love Lucy", with commercials, have some dessert, change the glove and get back on time to start the fifth round and stop Cooper. The AUDACITY!!
                  No commercials on BBC, no glove was changed.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Problem solved!!!

                    Left hook knocks Ali torso into top rope where he bounces off to circle to his left with back now to opposite rope where Cooper clocks him again, this time going down on his fanny on the lower rope that's tight enough to bounce his weight off onto the canvas. Without the ropes he's 10' out the ring on the arena floor or some astonished spectator's lap. He's up by himself after a few seconds walking to his corner where Dundee plunges through to sit him down as a 2nd trainer torso is starting to enter the ring.

                    Splice city, boys, read it and weep!

                    Slomo Replay of KD then cuts back to the corner with all in the ring now with the ref standing behind them. I've seen other clips at more a distance straight on view where we can see more clearly salts administered and Ali reaction. This is a spliced together clip at the critical point where another video seems to exist showing a different view.

                    But, mutts is gonna be mutts, nuts, and fruitcakes, so again, I'll go with Dundee even as his story changes over the years than a pack of mutts, nuts, and all around fruitcakes...
                    Why you haven't been ****ed off this forum will forever remain a mystery! You talk in baby talk, you contribute jack **** ,and no amount of exposing of your idiotic fantasies with facts deters you from repeating them ad nauseum.
                    The depths some morons will go to in their search for attention never ceases to amaze.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                      No commercials on BBC, no glove was changed.
                      I guess I'm not as funny as I think I am sometimes. I'm on board with you 100% on this. I'm just feeding into Queenie's ridiculous conspiracy theory that has will show absolutely no proof of......as usual.
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