Was Sam Langford the best fighter ever?

[HOUDINI563]

Rusty is the class idiot.

Has anyone noticed that Rusty believes every black fighter is **** but white fighters reign supreme?

He purposely posts one inaccurate statement after another but in turn ignores the facts.

Rusty is a racist idiot. I’m one step away from putting this POS on ignore.

[billeau2]

Is "running away" the Kata youse do to get your Black Belt?

The record shows: Moore's best weight was 190 pounds, and he was succeeding most heading into the Marciano fight.

I happily await your deflection.

Lol at your deflection... you must be a Clinton supporter as you use the same strategy: Accuse your opponent of doing exactly what you are doing.

Lets talk basic logic: Regardless of how Archie was doing? does not matter to the issue at hand now does it moron... Yeah he was doing great... but was at an advanced age, and shopworn... Point?

What record? what record shows Moore's best weight? Moore had at least two, maybe three succesful campaigns, look it up... the one difference in the Marciano fight was father time which caused him not to be near at his best.

Patton: "Fatigue makes cowards of us all" to which I would add, the level of fatigue that a shop worn Archie Moore experienced, in the later rounds of that fight, was a major factor contributing to his loss...and he would not have had that problem near his prime.

[billeau2]

Watching you discovering Boxing is like watching children learn to walk, comical in the moment yet sublimely beautiful in the abstract account of it all.

Watching you crap all over this section is not so pleasant. Why don't you take some time and learn about the sport before putting fourth such bogus opinions? for the sake of us all...

[Marchegiano]

Moore was "that good." But if you look at the Marciano fight, one wonders how Archie would have done with more strength points in the bank so to speak. As good as Moore was, if he had been younger, fresher, I think it would have been a tangible benefit.

Also, look at the quality of opposition Moore fought after Marciano...minus the loss to Patterson. To me it shows a guy who maybe had a second, or third peak when he won the light heavy title from Maxim, Maxim not being a great fighter... Keeping in mind that even his battles with Murderer's row Black fighters like Howard Loyd, etc... well, none of them were getting younger by the time marciano was plying his trade... Moores win against a guy like Washington ten years ago from the Marciano fight was a lot more impressive than like, a year ago from the Marciano fight.

There is an old Memomism when learning Japanese language, to learn the vowels in Katakana, one of their alphabets: A (ahh) E (we) (oh) (soon) (ehh) get (uh) old... I think the Mongoose beat the odds for sure... but eventually? ah, we soon get old.

That's a fair point.

[Willie Pep 229]

Lol at your deflection... you must be a Clinton supporter as you use the same strategy: Accuse your opponent of doing exactly what you are doing.

Lets talk basic logic: Regardless of how Archie was doing? does not matter to the issue at hand now does it moron... Yeah he was doing great... but was at an advanced age, and shopworn... Point?

What record? what record shows Moore's best weight? Moore had at least two, maybe three succesful campaigns, look it up... the one difference in the Marciano fight was father time which caused him not to be near at his best.

Patton: "Fatigue makes cowards of us all" to which I would add, the level of fatigue that a shop worn Archie Moore experienced, in the later rounds of that fight, was a major factor contributing to his loss...and he would not have had that problem near his prime.

Do you really believe that Clinton was the first to use/is the only politician that uses that tactic?

[Willie Pep 229]

Warning harsh judgment below based on only one video:

I just don't see in that video the greatness y'all are always on about.

I see a just another pre-1920s back-foot fighter who lunges. I actually LOL when the title card told me to prepare for his "double jab."

Certainly for his day he was an ATG, numbers of fights and wins makes him extraordinary, but he, like most if not all fighters from his era, gets taken apart by most if not all of the post-1920 greats!

Really would like to see a Greb video; I wonder?

[HOUDINI563]

Langford is walking down looking to ko an inferior opponent casually defending himself in the process. In process he is demonstrating his ability to parry, block and “bar” punches that are being thrown his way and then counter punch in lethal fashion.

The footage vs Jeanette he is continuously feinting and stepping in and out beautifully to finally get inside.

Beautiful work here.

[billeau2]

Do you really believe that Clinton was the first to use/is the only politician that uses that tactic?

Hardly. I do think they perfected the technique. It takes a certain braziness... to look someone in the eye (figuratively) and accuse them of exactly what you did. LIke Bill clinton getting, suddenly after a Uranium deal is allowed to process, upwards of 100k per a speaking engagement in Russia. Not saying Trump is clean either.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Rusty is the class idiot.

Has anyone noticed that Rusty believes every black fighter is **** but white fighters reign supreme?

He purposely posts one inaccurate statement after another but in turn ignores the facts.

Rusty is a racist idiot. I’m one step away from putting this POS on ignore.

Hahahaha! Little punk.

You're true colors emerge. You're only here to gush over Black fighters.


I don't care what a fighter's skin tone may be, I care about the truth. There's a theme of celebrating Black fighters, particularly at the expense of White fighters, and fans of all races and the media participate in that. But while I acknowledge that, it's not my targeted objective; rather it falls under the umbrella of general ignorance which I'm combating.


As I've said, Langford isn't fit to carry Jimmy McLarnin's jockstrap. But even Carpentier and Young Stribling have careers more benefiting the accolades lauded unto Langford: decades of fighting the absolute best across multiple weight divisions. But they're forgotten because they're White and didn't suffer an assumed social injustice.

Let's be honest, this is a country that considers Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks and Martin Luther Luther amongst its foremost heroes while committing iconoclasm against dudes who proved themselves the Platonic ideal of the most successful species to inhabit this planet. You don't expect that derangement and idiocy to seep into a sport famous for attracting idiots?

Again, I have invited all of you to prove your claim that Langford was the best of his generation, and you all demure. You're happy insulting me, but you won't engage my diplomacy.

If you're not scared and ******, what other conclusion may be drawn?

[Rusty Tromboni]

Lol at your deflection... you must be a Clinton supporter as you use the same strategy: Accuse your opponent of doing exactly what you are doing.

Lets talk basic logic: Regardless of how Archie was doing? does not matter to the issue at hand now does it moron... Yeah he was doing great... but was at an advanced age, and shopworn... Point?

What record? what record shows Moore's best weight? Moore had at least two, maybe three succesful campaigns, look it up... the one difference in the Marciano fight was father time which caused him not to be near at his best.

Patton: "Fatigue makes cowards of us all" to which I would add, the level of fatigue that a shop worn Archie Moore experienced, in the later rounds of that fight, was a major factor contributing to his loss...and he would not have had that problem near his prime.

All that incoherent ranting and not a single referenceto something unrelated. I feel gyped. Next time you owe me two irrelevant tangents.