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  • #41
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
    - -Any panel with looney Teddy in it is automatically a stinker.

    He only works to cover all his losses betting against the Ks.

    Dismissed summarily by Cus for pulling a gun on Tyson and tried to do the same with Lalonde but for not finding him when he needed him.

    Nat rated JJ #1, but he also refused to publish his bio script that Nat had purchased, so plenty of monkey wrenches jamming up them works.

    And still I give you free reign on my threads...only in boxing!!!
    I'm also not the biggest Teddy Atlas fan. With that being said, I hardly would say that is reason enough to discredit the other panelists.

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    • #42
      Some beautiful footage and very important figure to the sport of boxing

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      • #43
        Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        I'm also not the biggest Teddy Atlas fan. With that being said, I hardly would say that is reason enough to discredit the other panelists.
        - -I will say this for the guy that designed the panel scoring, he at least nailed that the votes be numerically averaged according to their rating placement instead of introducing the counter intuitive average of assigning 10 Pts to a #1 rating in a top 10 poll that introduces 10 extra arithmetically potential errors.

        Ali's 1.5 score shows he was far from unanimous, and Joes 2.0 show he was hot on his heels.

        JJ at #3 score of well over 6 shows voting patterns quickly broke apart in disagreement and so on and so forth.

        And keep in mind, the older gen fighters whom this panel weren't alive to understand the immediate impact naturally rate there gen over the past.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          I'm also not the biggest Teddy Atlas fan. With that being said, I hardly would say that is reason enough to discredit the other panelists.
          Teddy comes from Staten Island back when it was hicksville and mobster mansions.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
            Teddy comes from Staten Island back when it was hicksville and mobster mansions.
            And that's figuratively, not the town of Hicksville on Long Island.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
              Teddy comes from Staten Island back when it was hicksville and mobster mansions.
              lol. You definitely aint lying!!! You can smell it on him from your living room!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                - -I will say this for the guy that designed the panel scoring, he at least nailed that the votes be numerically averaged according to their rating placement instead of introducing the counter intuitive average of assigning 10 Pts to a #1 rating in a top 10 poll that introduces 10 extra arithmetically potential errors.

                Ali's 1.5 score shows he was far from unanimous, and Joes 2.0 show he was hot on his heels.

                JJ at #3 score of well over 6 shows voting patterns quickly broke apart in disagreement and so on and so forth.

                And keep in mind, the older gen fighters whom this panel weren't alive to understand the immediate impact naturally rate there gen over the past.
                Well I like that they had a diverse group. The historians were probably added to try to balance things out with regard to your worries, but of course you have a point.

                But I agree. I do like what they did with this poll, and it came out how things just about usually do. Ali and Louis leading the way, then things become interesting. The voting fell in line with what I usually see in rankings.

                Another interesting ranking is the Boxrec one, which is done by some kind of computer algorithm I've heard.

                Their top ten Heavys of All time turn out to be:

                Ali
                Louis
                Holyfield
                Patterson
                Marciano
                Holmes
                Tunney
                Johnson
                Klitschko
                Frazier

                I can't leave out #11. Sam Langford

                Interesting.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                  And that's figuratively, not the town of Hicksville on Long Island.
                  NO sir that would be "Hicksville Longiland."

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    lol. You definitely aint lying!!! You can smell it on him from your living room!
                    Crazy as it sounds Teddy's dad was a doctor.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                      Crazy as it sounds Teddy's dad was a doctor.
                      I didn't know that. Was he too busy working and that's why his son became a ruffian? lol .

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