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  • Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

    You did not admit it was the page from Moyle’s book. You tried to deny it. This is what you and that other clown does anytime you are painted into a corner. Deny, deflect, change the topic or counter with a “what about this or that” question to steer away from where you were wrong so you can attempt to prove you were right about something else. It’s a tiresome game and very childish and feminine behavior.
    Says the guy who still can't come to terms with Johnson agreeing to fight the other top tier Black heavies, which has been proven here beyond a reasonable doubt. You have been exposed here so many times that I'm surprised you don't post with an alt by now.
    Ivich Ivich Incapable Incapable like this.

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    • Originally posted by Ivich View Post

      LBJ got the ground breaking1964 Civil Rights Act through. Rightly or wrongly Truman dropped the bombs on Japan to save GI's lives.
      FDR is the longest serving president and there's a good reason for that. Lincoln saved the Union and freed the ****** he is considered a great man

      I'm not trying to help anyone's cause least of all my own I've been open that I am a Mason and quite honestly, I couldn't give a monkey's **** what anyone else thinks about it!
      You couldn’t give a monkey’s ass about it but here you are arguing about it…which is it? You are a walking contradiction.

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      • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

        Ivich was banned multiple times at East Side boxing.
        Yes, he had over 92K posts as McVey, and all of them were the same arrogant know-it-all tone. All the same method of denial, deflection, changing direction or topics altogether, name calling, copy and paste jobs with sloppy punctuation and broken paragraphs. He must be four pints into when he logs in to post.
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        • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
          So the aristocracy of England have corrupted English lower class youth?
          You do know that *****phile ring you spoke of is fiction and that the only witness,"Nick" was convicted of perjury and imprisoned having confessed to making it up?
          That Leon Britton,Paul Gambacini,Harvey Proctor,Ted Heath whom he claimed to have met and been abused by were all exonerated?

          That there was found they had no case to answer ?
          Leon Britton's Widow sued and received subastantial damages from two national newspapers?
          That Gambacini and Proctor were awarded huge settlements against the BBC .

          Ted Heath was dead by the time these false charges were brought,but it was pointed out that
          as then PM his movements were always known 24/7and he had a body guard, a senior detective with him during all his waking hours,these bodyguards were on a rotation system.
          We have proof that1 MP Cyril Smith abused boys and one TV personality, a piece of sewage named Jimmy Saville was into *****philia ,among other disgusting practices.
          Some love to believe in conspiracies and require no proof of them to accept they are true.
          They also happy to slander and libel both the dead and the living without a shred of evidence to substantiate their smears.
          There is a word for such "people " but I can't use it here.
          Jimmy Saville was good friends with Prince (now King) Charles i.e. British aristocracy. So his pedophilia was protected.

          There are other British aristoc**** one can point to, like Aleister Crowley and his penchant for sick practices. Or Prince Andrew and his association with one Jeffrey Epstein.

          The facts speak for themselves.
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          • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
            Why have him come in heavier than he ever fought at? Johnson matched Jeffries for strength in the early rounds and he predicted he would.
            Jeffries was down to 235lbs in July 1909 he had over a year to get in shape.
            - - Very dubious of that.

            In the ring spring 1897 for Corbett/Fitz post fight, he dwarfed all around him, well over 250, looking 300.

            1st round KO.

            Big men who deny by defying being big men suffer greatly in those early days of anorexic heavies. Being a kid then, he had no knowledge other than the limited trainers available to him passing on myths. Even today we see heavies thinking they'll be faster losing 10 lbs

            As a kid coming up in sports, Water was a no go, strictly forbidden because it caused "cramps." Instead they gave us as many salt tablets as we could eat. Football coaches encouraged head on collisions and heat prostrations in the hottest 100 Fahrenheit August months.

            Best trainer I can think of back then was William Muldoon who was only a part time trainer being greater than boxing could contain. What he did for John L would pass muster today if not exceed most trainers who seem to be fad oriented.

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            • Originally posted by Ivich View Post

              Took my Wife away for a few days ,got back tonight.
              You're a nasty little **** on the quiet arent you.
              They can't help themselves, mate.
              Like old biddys behind the net curtains, cackling away.
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              • Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

                Yes, he had over 92K posts as McVey, and all of them were the same arrogant know-it-all tone. All the same method of denial, deflection, changing direction or topics altogether, name calling, copy and paste jobs with sloppy punctuation and broken paragraphs. He must be four pints into when he logs in to post.
                Well if it is mcvey, he still knows more than you'll ever forget about boxing.
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                • Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

                  You couldn’t give a monkey’s ass about it but here you are arguing about it…which is it? You are a walking contradiction.
                  So what's it matter what he chooses to do with his life??
                  It's normally people like yourself with some thing to hide

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                  • Originally posted by Incapable View Post

                    Well if it is mcvey, he still knows more than you'll ever forget about boxing.
                    Psychotic, posting from this obvious alt. Of course your posting history has already demonstrated your fragile ego and unwillingness to admit when you are wrong. Carry on Ivich.

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                    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                      Was he banned for beating you guys down with facts? At least he backs up all of his takes.
                      He was banned at least three times. He took nobody down but himself. By the way I answered your dumb theory question. I take since I got no reply your owned and taking you lumps.

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