Why Jack Johnson is Not as Great as You We’re Told

[Ivich]

Page 64 of his book.

Page 64 of his book is a rhyming couplet,written by W O McGeehan.There is no mention of Mes Combats ,not surprising since the rhyme was written before Mes Combats Have you finally flipped?

[Ivich]

- - First I heard of JJ toting a mgr with him overseas, but thanks for digging U own grave. JJ reneged on a sign contract where he moved the goalposts illegally.

It's like U was born yesterday yet again today for the umpteenth no wiser with no improvements.

In your ignorance you thought Johnson gave a handshake I just exposed that ignorance.Personally I think Johnson should have honoured that contract,I would have ,but I understand his reasoning for not doing so
He had to wait until he was 30 before he got a chance at the title wait while lesser men won it.When his chance finally arrived he had to take the beggars share of the purse.As champion he declared he wanted what his predecessor had received. I've posted the truth its rather important and reflects no discredit on myself. You are just a thicko troll.

[GhostofDempsey]

Ghost,
You really want to get into a debate about Masonic affiliations? You know from where we both grew up how complicated these affiliations and what is said about various groups versus what is practiced actually is... My first and greatest Martial Arts Teacher was affiliated with the pre-Guerrilla Gang Black gang movement in Baltimore... I would go with him to family members who were members... White hate literature all around and with no exception, when I came around I was hugged and fed by the womenfolk and welcomed into the fold with Sensei... And as you know I am White lol.

My point is, these things are complicated.

No argument there. I’m just playing a little devil’s advocate here and playing on some of the alliances here. I don’t know much about the secret society of free masons. I know several of our presidents were members and the masons are at odds with the Catholic Church and I’m guessing have done both good and bad since their inception.

[GhostofDempsey]

Page 64 of his book is a rhyming couplet,written by W O McGeehan.There is no mention of Mes Combats ,not surprising since the rhyme was written before Mes Combats Have you finally flipped?

It’s mentioned by name at the bottom of the page. Put the whiskey down and dunk your head in some cold water.

[Ivich]

DR Z

Im going to back off a moment here... You may have some notions that are wrong, I want to assume they are out of ignorance and so I shall. You may not like Ivich. You may not like an organization, or a group he is associated with... But that does not make these groups, or associations worthy of recriminations. MOST people who attain an advanced age as productive citizens have various associations, etc... Don't be a fool. I will use myself as an example:

1. I lived in a Buddhist Monastery, some people may not like Buddhists... Does that make me a *********? Buddhists are responsible in some parts of the world for defying China and considered enemies of the state...

2. I often get flack here because my wife was a stripper while we both went through graduate school... Someone may find this offensive, does this mean it is wrong?

You can dislike a person but be mindful of what it is you are doing when casting aspersions upon them... There is nothing wrong with supporting a group with a purpose that goes against a government, and nothing wrong with being part of an organization like the Masons. Governments have been known to do bad things! Without protest we would have tyranny.

A close friend of mine is a Buddhist ,he married a Thai Lady and lives north of ****kok.
Live and let live.

[Ivich]

It’s mentioned by name at the bottom of the page. Put the whiskey down and dunk your head in some cold water.

No it isnt you ****** clown its a nursery rhyme!

[Ivich]

It’s mentioned by name at the bottom of the page. Put the whiskey down and dunk your head in some cold water.

I dont drink whiskey nor have I had a drink.

[Ivich]

No argument there. I’m just playing a little devil’s advocate here and playing on some of the alliances here. I don’t know much about the secret society of free masons. I know several of our presidents were members and the masons are at odds with the Catholic Church and I’m guessing have done both good and bad since their inception.

Several were ,Masons? A good half of them including
Washington
Lincoln
FDR
Truman
LBJ
Got to sleep I'm up at 2am for my flight,try and manage without me till Friday afternoon.
Your fingers have never been so busy on the key board! lol

[billeau2]

No argument there. I’m just playing a little devil’s advocate here and playing on some of the alliances here. I don’t know much about the secret society of free masons. I know several of our presidents were members and the masons are at odds with the Catholic Church and I’m guessing have done both good and bad since their inception.

I don't know much either... I run into stuff on the conspiracy research but its usually stuff refuted by practicing masons. But the one thing that strikes me as interesting. When I met my wife and went down to Bizzaro New york lol... (Louisiana being the opposite of NYC lol) there were two things that made me feel a bit more at home: there was a masonic temple... and I know I had seen them everywhere...and there was an abandoned synagogue... that was actually kept up, someone was keeping it up. I grew up in East Harlem and a lot of my dad's people (Dad was ***ish) were ***ish, including his first wife's family... so I was entwined in that culture to a degree... and while you could not get a decent corn beef sandwich in Opelousas Louisiana, or even lafayette Louisiana, it was just nice to see something familiar.

You don't miss the food too much because the food down there is equally tasty! Still cannot get a decent ***ish deli sandwich in San Francisco!

[billeau2]

A close friend of mine is a Buddhist ,he married a Thai Lady and lives north of ****kok.
Live and let live.

One of the central ironies of this century and last is the emergence of "radical Hindu (for lack of a better term) and traditional Indian Buddhist violent actions." These actions, since Brahmanism (the Gita, etc), were considered directly contradictory to the Bakti (peaceful) relationship guiding these practices. It also is very sad to me that during the sixties you had a legitimate bakti movement in this country (USA) where intelligent young people formed social institutions and protested military actions, but were set upon by grifters like Charlie M, and military sub groups.

Some of the greatest warrior cultures are often enough, some of the most gentle when given a chance... Japanese Samurai, Scottish bladesmen would not do more than necessary to defeat an adversary in a duel... Sikh warriors live a lifestyle of peace, prosperity and fellowship towards others...

I guess my point is that radical extremism is its own horrid social convention: whether it be nationalism, religious fundamentalism, directed towards an organization with its own internal standards... is immaterial.