Who was more perfect: Sugar Ray Robinson or Ricardo Lopez

[IronDanHamza]

Lopez was a well-rounded very good fighter. Not on Robinson's level though. Trained by Nacho, you can see a similar style to Juan Marquez, though JMM relied more on counter-punching. I would put Lopez on the same level as JMM, Cotto, Carlos Ortiz, and a lot of other ATGs.

Not even in Carlos Ortiz's league.

[bluemurder]

Lopez fought a bunch of nobodies in two manufactured weight classes that didn't exist in the 40s and 50s, for belts that didn't exist in the 40s and 50s, and moved up three pounds in his entire championship career. He did put a whipping on Nene Sanchez, tho.

[Anthony342]

Neither compare to the great Joe Louis. Overall though, Robinson proved to have the better intangibles against better comp. Both were beauty to behold, at the end of the day, Robinson did it against better fighters for longer.

You just reminded me of one of the barber shop scenes in Coming to America

"Sugar Ray Robinson is the best boxer that ever lived"

"What about Joe Louis?"

"The Brown Bomber. Now that was a great fighter" haha great stuff. I guess Barry Blaustein knew his boxing.

[Clegg]

Lopez was a well-rounded very good fighter. Not on Robinson's level though. Trained by Nacho, you can see a similar style to Juan Marquez, though JMM relied more on counter-punching. I would put Lopez on the same level as JMM, Cotto, Carlos Ortiz, and a lot of other ATGs.

Cotto is an ATG?

[Ray Corso]

What he said.....................Cotto is an ATG?.................

How in the world is Cotto an ATG?

[Dempsey-Louis]

You just reminded me of one of the barber shop scenes in Coming to America

"Sugar Ray Robinson is the best boxer that ever lived"

"What about Joe Louis?"

"The Brown Bomber. Now that was a great fighter" haha great stuff. I guess Barry Blaustein knew his boxing.

It is not a fair comparison Joe Louis was 137 years old.

[GhostofDempsey]

Cotto is an ATG?

Borderline but why not? Define ATG.

[TBear]

Respect both of their skill levels but Robinson took it to a higher level against better competition.

[ShoulderRoll]

Obviously Ray Robinson had more tools and proved his greatness against much better opposition.

But I do enjoy watching Ricardo Lopez. He threw intelligent, fluid combinations.

[billeau2]

Lets pare this down and say: without reference to who the better fighter is... is there some list of attributes that Lopez had that make him such a technical marvel?