Originally posted by IronDanHamza
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Reggie Johnson beat James Toney in your mind ONLY.. because he certainly never beat him in the minds of the judges or in my mind. Toney came back from a knock down to dominate Johnson.
I ask you to name me another 160 champion who moved up to 200lbs and bettered Toney's achievements against the heavyweights. You come up with Billy Conn, well Conn couldn't hold a candle to James Toney. I also seriously doubt Chris Byrd or Eddie Mustapha would have much chance against him.
You keep saying Toney never had a dominant performance against a top level opponent:... Well what was his performances against Charles Williams & Evander Holyfield?.. Holyfield going on to fight two world title fights.. what was his performance against Nunn & Jirov?... what about No1 contender Tim Littles?... name me another fighter in any weight class, in any era of the sport, who could have done what Toney done against Tim Littles?.. a 3ins gash above his eye, blooding pouring down his face and the doctor and referee saying, "You have to the end of this round only James"... Toney went after Littles with murder on his mind. knocking out Littles before the bell sounded.. That is the mark of a great champion.
So your assumption he has not a dominant performance to his name, over a top quality opponent is wrong... Boxing is not about being dominant, boxing is about winning. One on One highest form of unarmed combat, 12 rounds, level weights. speed, skills, boxing ability are what counts. Not dominance... Who was Joe Frazier ever dominant over?... What about Marvin Hagler, who was he ever dominant over?...Frazier & Hagler gritted their teeth and made it a fight to the finish, even against mediocre opponents.
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